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I worry more about people who think their country is better run by foreigners, because they know it's the only way Scotland will still be subject to right wing rule.

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Not as silly as you, but I'll let you chunter on.


And who decides what is or is not in the public interest?


Empowered in what way and by whom? How are these people chosen, and what checks and balances would be in place to ensure they are not incompetent, corrupt or partisan?



I don't think you are at any stage yet. Beyond wishful thinking, that is.

Nevertheless, it's your pipe dream. It would be naive to think any openess wouldn't be exploited by others for their own interests.

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You wouldn't know what a foreigner is. And if you did try to define it, all you would succeed in demonstrating is your xenophobic racism.

I don't view the English, Welsh or Irish as foreigners. I see them as fellow countrymen. And I'm proud to stand alongside them and call them my brothers. Just as our forefathers did in so many conflicts where all of our blood was spilled, albeit unjustly and foolishly.

And I don't want a country controlled by left wing rule. I want a country ruied by the people, where the people have a real say in determining their future, and are free from the party politics that does little more than serve the interests of the politicians who have created their own POLITICAL class, to ensure that we all recognise that they are superior to us.

And that is why politicians are scum!

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Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Twaddle.

A foreigner is someone who wasn't born here, doesn't live here and isn't elected by those of us who were. (all three mind you, not just one)
And you have a cheek accusing anyone of xenophobic racism.
That tag is better reserved for those who deserve it, such as yourself and those British tories you support.

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Gusmac, you are at the silly stage now of defending the ridiculous while attacking anyone who points out why the system fails to deliver accountability and inevitably democracy, to the electorate.

If you want you could use Levenson as a template for making government accountable. Oh and to answer your question. You would simply use professional people independent of the government or a pack of monkeys if you like. The system is only as good as the checks and balances used to make it deliver. An independent arbiter is simply a group of individuals given the power to take decisions on your behalf. Actually, they would be doing the job of the Council and Parliamentary Ombudsman but instead of a boy's club, protecting the system. It would have the power to make politicians directly accountable.

Really, Gusmac, you’re just one of these silly wee tartan people who want to believe Salmond and independence will come down the chimney like Santa Claus. Yo ho ho INDEPENDENCE...

I've told you before, it matters not a jot who's running the show. It's what the system is geared to deliver, that makes the difference.

We are all children of the Human Race. Our creation doesn't know boundaries, only men created those. It's entirely accidental that the border is where it is. It could have been the Solway to the Tyne. It could have been the English Channel. Equally it could have been the Forth Clyde divide, where you would now be the "foreigner" as you would have it. I know no boundaries and don't accept them.

The Scots have exported its sons and daughters for centuries, I would contend to escape the banale control freaks like you who would bind them in your petty restrictions. And, as the International Burns Federation would attest, there are millions throughout the world who consider themselves Scots. Who are you to say that they aren't?

I hold no truck with anyone who claims power because they have been "elected". There is not a single politician who has been elected by a majority of his or her electorate. NO politician has a genuine mandate. So don't bleat about alleged democracy to me. It simply is an illusion - and get this gusmac, it doesn't exist.

As for me supporting British Tories, such a remark is clearly beneath you. Else you're not paying attention to what the I and people are saying. And if you can't do that, why on earth would you think we'd hand power to your and your cronies.

Truth is Gusmac. You've already lost the argument. And your meanderings just show us all how much you realise it.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

The dynamic duo speaking schect in stereo. Is it any wonder nobody takes you seriously any more?

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Gusmac, the penny has dropped, this isn’t about the failings in the political system or what independence will or won’t deliver, because you don’t care. It’s about you being a xenophobic racist and keeping Scotland for the little tartan people. That’s what independence really means to you, doesn’t it? Now suddenly, your desperation in defence of Salmond and having independence at all cost makes sense.

When I started slagging you off as wee tartan clad brave heart types, I was only joking but now I see the truth in what you think, you and wee eck are defending against.

It’s ma grannies heilan hame but only for little tartan people oh and don’t unpack yur bags because yur nae stayin, unless of course you were born here and that means white no brown.

Wait until Aberdeen is like Bradford Gusmac, full of little brown people wanting to mate with purebred Scots. What will you do then, move to the outer Hebrides or the Shetland Island? Never mind Gusmac, with all that empty space doing absolutely fu*k all, I am sure we'll have plenty of room for our new coffee coloured Scots brothers, as well as their sheep.

Well the stereo has been turned up a few decibels but the schecht is still the same.
You lost the argument a while back, hence the intervention of your sidekick.

Further confirmed by your and his feeble attempts to paint me as a racist and a xenophobe. Always the last resort for those with no other argument left, and frankly, it's laughable.

BTW I have no problem with foreigners. I just don't want them running my country.
As for "Wait until Aberdeen is like Bradford Gusmac, full of little brown people wanting to mate with purebred Scots" that's about as close to a racist remark as I've seen on here.
You obviously haven't been here lately or you would know that we have many people here of various colours, creeds and nationalities. I don't have a problem with diversity, although you seem to.
I wonder what your "citizen of the world" chum makes of your remarks.

Oh and what exactly is a purebred Scot? Certainly not me, I'm nearly as Irish as I am Scots

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There was no argument to lose Gusmac, it was only you wittering on about independence and how wonderful it would be. Without any idea of how the political system actually works. However, your extreme xenophobic racist views show the true politics of what independence means to you. It’s Scotland for the Scots. We like visitors up here just don’t plan on staying.

I don’t know why I never thought of it before, why don’t we get dressed up in our tartan kilts, paint our face's blue and start shouting things like, INDEPENDENCE?! FREEDOM! FIT and PROPER PERSON! SNP! FOREVER TARTAN! NICOLA STURGEON LOVES THE BOBBY!

Oh and Gusmac, your politics are more confused than scooby doo

Skull, you've surpassed yourself. That's the biggest pile of shecht you've posted yet.

The only xenophobic or racist views here are those fabricated by you and your unionist friend. Now go do one.

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I take it this “independence” lark is some sort of Scottish white supremacist movement because nothing else makes sense. Your politics seems to be “independence” at any cost, and I can’t think for the life of me, why you would vote for another boy’s club to run the show for their rich chums.

Words like freedom and independence don’t really mean anything, because as I said before, you are voting for a system. The only reason must be to keep Scotland for the Scots. It’s certainly not for any benefit the man in the street will ever recognise through independence. You simply don’t have the system in place to deliver it.

It's the Brave Heart movie thing isn't it, with thousands of Scots, chanting FREEDOM! !!!!. Oh and some feckin freedom by the way, that was another vote in the wrong direction.

No skull, the white supremacists, bigots, racists, fascists and homophobes of this country all support the union.
But you knew that already, didn't you? After all you know everything, don't you

Now which bit of "go do one" did you not get?
If it's a bit beyond you, ask your literary friend for more help.

Maybe he'll threaten to sue me as well

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