Jasbar wrote:
Fact is that not everyone who voted SNP want independence. The polls clearly suggest this.
Not in dispute, at least not by me. - Gary thinks a vote is irrelevent, do you agree?
BTW not everyone who wants independence votes SNP, just as not everyone who votes SNP wants independence.
Jasbar wrote:
Fact is that the SNP gained power because of a wave of anti-labour feeling, brought about by Tony Blair's reneging on every facet of traditional Labour values, which have been the cornerstone of Scots' political leanings for over a hundred years.
Yes Blair, but it's not just him. His legacy perhaps.
But you have put your finger on the problem.
The labour party now is indistinguishable from the tories or liberals. Tories in red ties, and the Scottish labour party? Useless second raters doing London labour's bidding.
Scots have a socialist tradition which labour has abandoned in pursuit of English electability. Scots feel disenfranchised, and voted for the only dissenting voice on the ballot.
The trouble is, nothing has changed re labour since May 2011. If anything, they sounding more and more like tories every day.
SLAB needs to get it's own independence from London labour or Scotland will do it for them.
In 2014, we have two choices, go our own way or stick around for more of the same. Nobody is giving us a third option.
Jasbar wrote:
There is no desire among the majority of Scots to break away.
There was no desire among Scots for the union in the first place. - But it happened anyway.
There is no desire to have our children die in illegal wars, no desire to have WMDs on the Clyde. no desire for Tory rule. - But guess what? We got those too and will continue to do so, so long as we are in the union.
We have no desire for a privatised NHS, no desire for our pensioners to have their bus passes revoked,no desire for our..........need I go on?
But this is where the union bus is going. We Scots are very unwilling passengers.
And while there is no real desire among the majority to break away, there is equally no great love for the union either. If a week is a long time in politics, what's two years?