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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:05 pm 
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Funny, you seem to have forgotten to answer my question?

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Now let me ask you a question: Tell me how the system will change with independence and what it will deliver to the average man in the street?

It stands to reason you must know the answer, as you are the one voting for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:21 pm 
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Oh and gusmac, once again, I explained how the system is geared to work. It matters not a jot what you think because the system doesn’t care. It’s set up to deliver control over outcome for those in power. Alec Salmond is merely a figure head for those who operate behind the curtain, that really run the show. You can rest assured their primary interests are the ones being served. You and I are of little consequence other than to prove the system is working correctly. And to do that they give you a little vote to make you feel a part of things.

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:37 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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I never said doing nothing will change anything.


Well at least you're paying attention. You didn't say that, I said doing nothing will achieve nothing. It was an invitation to prove me wrong. :wink:

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What I said was it would take an economic meltdown with an educated public for real change to happen.


That is your opinion, not mine. It certainly is not irrefutable fact, although you expect it to be accepted as such.
Apart from which you don't have an educated public and you're not going to any time soon.
In short, this just isn't going to happen, therefore it is irrelevant.

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I also said that you didn't matter and without the checks and balances, your vote is simply an endorsement of how the system works in its present form.

If you are correct (and I do stress the if), then nothing will change come independence.
Except expectations will have been raised, just to be dashed. That is going to produce an angry and resentful population, which could end up doing just what you say is needed anyway. You might even get your baying mob on the streets.
This is what you fail to take account of. You can only see one scenario for your real change, when there could be others.
Now I'd be the first to tell you that this is unlikely, but no more so than your blinkered view.

In reality, I think you worry that an independent Scotland would avoid economic meltdown and somehow cheat you of your perceived result.
Let's face it, if you truly want what you call real change and you honestly believe that economic meltdown is the key to getting it, the last thing you'd want is a successful independent Scotland.
You really need to keep Scotland shackled to the UK's corpse if you are to achieve your goal.

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:46 pm 
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Oh and gusmac, once again, I explained how the system is geared to work. It matters not a jot what you think because the system doesn’t care. It’s set up to deliver control over outcome for those in power.


You have simply stated your opinion and professed to know how the system works.

Hardly irrefutable proof #-o

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:19 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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Oh and gusmac, once again, I explained how the system is geared to work. It matters not a jot what you think because the system doesn’t care. It’s set up to deliver control over outcome for those in power.


You have simply stated your opinion and professed to know how the system works.

Hardly irrefutable proof #-o


Oh there's proof alright, if you want to discuss the lack of representation, transparency and accountability to the electorate. And what about the claims of how politicians are supposed to act in the public interest before all else. Sometimes gusmac, it's about what's missing from the political mechanism, like the checks and balances, to hold those in power to account.

The irrefutable proof is all around you, and we are the living reality of it. And if you can't see it, you're a fool.

Now answer the question, you are the one voting after all. :-|

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:48 pm 
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Oh and gusmac, once again, I explained how the system is geared to work. It matters not a jot what you think because the system doesn’t care. It’s set up to deliver control over outcome for those in power.


You have simply stated your opinion and professed to know how the system works.

Hardly irrefutable proof #-o


Oh there's proof alright, if you want to discuss the lack of representation, transparency and accountability to the electorate. And what about the claims of how politicians are supposed to act in the public interest before all else. Sometimes gusmac, it's about what's missing from the political mechanism, like the checks and balances, to hold those in power to account.


It's still just your opinion Skull. #-o

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The irrefutable proof is all around you, and we are the living reality of it.


Well I'm sure it is, if you want to believe it enough. Bit like a religion really, not open to question and requiring faith. :roll:


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And if you can't see it, you're a fool.


Must be a lot of us fools out here then. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:53 pm 
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Now answer the question, you are the one voting after all. :-|

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Tell me how the system will change with independence and what it will deliver to the average man in the street?


You'll just say it won't happen anyway. So what's the point?

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
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gusmac wrote:
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Now answer the question, you are the one voting after all. :-|

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Tell me how the system will change with independence and what it will deliver to the average man in the street?


You'll just say it won't happen anyway. So what's the point?


The illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan the MP’s expenses scandal, the banks and the world economic meltdown, Barclay’s and the libor rate scandal, HSBC and the money-laundering scandal for drug kingpins and who pays? And you think the failings in the system to hold those responsible to account are by accident and not design? And what about the tax avoidance scams of all those multinational companies like Amazon and Starbucks siphoning off billions of pounds but the government cuts benefits? You’ve got to be kidding Gusmac, and that’s without even looking at the local government level like the Edinburgh Trams debacle.

Are you living in a fu*king bubble, how much proof do you need? Oh and I don’t see anyone going to prison other than the odd sacrificial lamb at the extreme end of the fiddle and only because they’ve been outed in public, making a custodial sentence almost unavoidable.

Oh and Gusmac, when I say you don’t matter. It's a fact.

And you think, when I explain to you, how the system really works. It's a matter of opinion? You Gusmac, are a fu*king idiot.
The only reason any of the above has come to light is because the excesses were so extreme, it's brought down the world economic system.


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Tell me how the system will change with independence and what it will deliver to the average man in the street?


I doubt you've even thought about it. :-|


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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
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You Gusmac, are a fu*king idiot.


And a merry Christmas to you too Garry. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Bent Judges
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Tell me how the system will change with independence and what it will deliver to the average man in the street?


I doubt you've even thought about it. :-|


#-o The truth is gusmac. You haven't gotten a clue have you? #-o


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