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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:12 am 
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Kelvin Mackenzie seeks apology ! Is there any lower feckin worm of a man,are you meant to feel sorry for him now


he made a fatal mistake, he believed what he was told, or rushed a fallacy into print to get a scoop...

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:46 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Kelvin Mackenzie seeks apology ! Is there any lower feckin worm of a man,are you meant to feel sorry for him now


he made a fatal mistake, he believed what he was told, or rushed a fallacy into print to get a scoop...

And still doesnt have the balls to say he fecked up :roll:


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blackpool wrote:
Kelvin Mackenzie seeks apology ! Is there any lower feckin worm of a man,are you meant to feel sorry for him now


he made a fatal mistake, he believed what he was told, or rushed a fallacy into print to get a scoop...

And still doesnt have the balls to say he fecked up :roll:


Actually, your wrong

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The former editor of the Sun has offered "profuse apologies to the people of Liverpool" for blaming fans for the Hillsborough tragedy.

It follows the release of a report into the disaster which resulted in the death of 96 fans.

Kelvin MacKenzie wrote the headline The Truth on the front-page story which ran four days later.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-19575411

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:01 pm 
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but lets not spoil a decent witch hunt with facts eh?...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Hillsborough inquest verdicts quashed by High Court
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-20772416

The High Court has quashed the original inquest verdicts returned on 96 Liverpool football fans who died in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

The Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge ordered fresh inquests following an application by the Attorney General.

Dominic Grieve made his request to the High Court three months after a new report established 41 of those who died might have been saved.

The home secretary has also announced a new police inquiry into the disaster.

Theresa May said the new inquiry would re-examine what happened in April 1989.

New medical evidence was used as a basis for the new inquests application.

Mrs May said former Durham Chief Constable Jon Stoddart would lead the new inquiry, which will focus specifically on the 96 deaths of Liverpool fans as a result of what happened at the FA Cup semi-final in 1989.

The fans died after they were crushed within two pens at the Leppings Lane terrace of Sheffield Wednesday's stadium during the semi-final with Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989.

Mrs May said she was "determined to see a swift and thorough response to the findings of the Hillsborough Panel to deliver justice for the 96 football fans who died and the families who have fought so hard on their behalf".

Mr Stoddart will be able to recruit investigators and staff to his team, but he will not be allowed to employ officers or former officers with any prior connection to the Hillsborough disaster or from the West Midlands, South Yorkshire or Merseyside police forces.
'Horrific' events

He said he was "aware of the great significance and personal responsibility which comes with leading this criminal investigation".

"My first priority is to meet with as many of the families as possible and to establish a working open relationship with them throughout the investigation," he said.

In making his request, the Attorney General said the "horrific" events at the stadium were well known and "were seen by millions on television as the tragedy unfolded and by many of the spectators at the stadium itself".
Chief Constable Jon Stoddart Jon Stoddart stepped down as Durham Police chief constable in October

He said that in the months and years that followed, the events that led to the tragedy "have been the subject of numerous investigations and inquiries".

Mr Grieve said the application was being made as a consequence of the Hillsborough Panel's report published on 12 September this year, which he said was a "remarkable" document.

He said that Dr Bill Kirkup, the medical member of the panel and a former associate chief medical officer at the Department of Health, had explained that, of the deceased, 58 "definitely" or "probably" had the capacity to survive beyond the 15:15 cut-off time.

That new evidence, which Mr Grieve said formed the "essential basis" for his application "undermines the coroner's summing-up at the inquests".
'Waited 23 years'

The original inquest verdicts angered many of the bereaved families who were told at the 1990 hearing that all Hillsborough's victims had been injured by 15:15 on the afternoon of the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

Evidence covering the response by the emergency services after this time was also not heard at the original inquest.

Among the relatives who have travelled to London for the High Court hearing is Barry Devonside who lost his teenage son.

"At this moment in time it's the most important thing for all of the families, we have waited 23 years for justice.

"It has gone on for far too long, I was 42 when it started, I'm closer to 66 now.

"For once in my life I am confident, it would be a major shock to everybody if the applications were rejected."

Andy Burnham, Labour MP for Leigh, who set up the panel, said it was a "bittersweet" day for the families.

"Those families shouldn't be coming to London to find out they're back where they should have been 23 years ago," he said.
Police altered statements

"Some of the families said to me 'we never heard what happened to our son and my dad died not knowing'. No family should ever be in that position in this country."

The panel's findings showed police and emergency services had made "strenuous attempts" to deflect the blame for the disaster on to the fans.

More than 160 police statements had been altered - 116 of them to remove or change negative comments about the policing of the match.

Speaking in the House of Commons on Tuesday, Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram said he was concerned the families of the victims may not have the finances to support any new legal cases.

In response, Justice Secretary Chris Grayling said: "I think it might be helpful to say that my department is very mindful of the financial pressures faced by the Hillsborough families.

"We all recognise the very difficult circumstances they have been through and they are certainly in our consideration."

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116 Fylhty statements altered thats regarding Hillsborough NEXT THE ORGREAVE FIT UP SAME POLICE FORCE SAME FEKKING SCUM :evil: :evil:

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116 Fylhty statements altered thats regarding Hillsborough NEXT THE ORGREAVE FIT UP SAME POLICE FORCE SAME FEKKING SCUM :evil: :evil:

And it took a Tory led government to see that it was all uncovered.

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Sussex wrote:
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116 Fylhty statements altered thats regarding Hillsborough NEXT THE ORGREAVE FIT UP SAME POLICE FORCE SAME FEKKING SCUM :evil: :evil:

And it took a Tory led government to see that it was all uncovered.



HEAR HEAR =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

well said that man

I like the way a retired cockney marxist taxi driver thinks he know whats it was like in the Yorkshite coal fields in 1985, was he on the picket lines? was he fook

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:51 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Sussex wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
116 Fylhty statements altered thats regarding Hillsborough NEXT THE ORGREAVE FIT UP SAME POLICE FORCE SAME FEKKING SCUM :evil: :evil:

And it took a Tory led government to see that it was all uncovered.



HEAR HEAR =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

well said that man

I like the way a retired cockney marxist taxi driver thinks he know whats it was like in the Yorkshite coal fields in 1985, was he on the picket lines? was he fook


Yes Sussex that's been noted fukking new Labour scum.

Wannabe I was there spent some time in Hatfield and helped out in Camden miners support group, as well as organising Fleet Street print Unions [ we put compulsory levy's on all members and raised in excess of one £million] funded food convoys funnily enough in my trips all around the Country Wales Northumberland Yorkshire Derbyshire Notts I found the most militant were from the Kent coalfields =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Met a few UDM scabs they wont forget the experience absolute sub human scum :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: some now Driving cabs like you he he sold out by your slag Thatcher and Greatorex =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

And just for your info I aint no Marxist my socialist hero James Connolly T&G member =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:25 pm 
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kin el, how far is Camden from the nearest pit?


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democracy at its best

Kent was crap for mining, never achieved any records, Betteshanger went on strike in WW2 (nice) and even RJB didnt want anything to do with Kent, all the Kent pits are closed (and have been a long time) now

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AND IN 2013 THE FYLTHY'S WHO COMMITTED PERJURY WILL GET BANGED UP HOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:10 am 
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Kent was crap for mining, never achieved any records, Betteshanger went on strike in WW2 (nice) and even RJB didnt want anything to do with Kent, all the Kent pits are closed (and have been a long time) now


It was not only pits that were closed....entire generations with proud history of the men working them. All totally decimated along with total community's, villages of skilled men now broken in heart and spirit, them. their families and kin all virtually left upon the slag heaps. As for never breaking any records you can be sure the books were kept on a slow burner by the Thatcher cronies-they did not want any success shown in their targets.... :evil:


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Kent was crap for mining, never achieved any records, Betteshanger went on strike in WW2 (nice) and even RJB didnt want anything to do with Kent, all the Kent pits are closed (and have been a long time) now


It was not only pits that were closed....entire generations with proud history of the men working them. All totally decimated along with total community's, villages of skilled men now broken in heart and spirit, them. their families and kin all virtually left upon the slag heaps. As for never breaking any records you can be sure the books were kept on a slow burner by the Thatcher cronies-they did not want any success shown in their targets.... :evil:


im sure the Kent coalfields were mainly thin seam (36 inches maybe) - whereas our faces were 6 feet and Daw Mill had 24 ft thick seams (they had to take the top first outbound, turn the face and come back for the bottom half) so the odds were staked against thin seam workings, Belvoir valley had even thicker seams but faster machines, coal runs out at every pit eventually, even before it becomes uneconomical to mine it, in a way a mine can close itself by working fast, you cant blame Thatcher for dwindling coal reserves can you?...............oh sorry, course you can....lol

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AND IN 2013 THE FYLTHY'S WHO COMMITTED PERJURY WILL GET BANGED UP HOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY =D> =D> =D>



dont hold your breath......or in your case please do

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kin el, how far is Camden from the nearest pit?


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democracy at its best

Camden nearest pit prob in Kent not that mattered I covered 1000's of miles to help and support the STRIKING miners =D> =D> =D>

Compulsory levy was of course voted for by the members and those that declined soon found themselves out of the industry permanently he he [edited by admin] scab scum there were 2 I believe out of 40000. A record we are proud of to this day =D> =D> =D> =D>

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