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 Post subject: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:12 am 
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I just have a few questions if you'd be so kind as to answer them it is appreciated.

1. What do you think a fair fare rate is.

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply.

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run'

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:59 am 
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I just have a few questions if you'd be so kind as to answer them it is appreciated.

1. What do you think a fair fare rate is.

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply.

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run'

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be



1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. The going rate and more

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. A few quid off at the other end, no more

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run' Something over 25 mile

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be No different to the Stnadard rate.

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work Don't like it one bit, you wear what is comfortable

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be Something between £80-£90 per week


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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
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1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. discounts after £3.00

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. as above

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run', £1.50 first 50 miles then £1.00 after

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be, as above

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work wear tidy clean clothing

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be, depending on how many vehicles the company has up to 10 £50 PW 20 £45 over 20 then £40 per vehicle.


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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:42 pm 
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1) £2 for first mile and £1.40 a mile after
2) Discounting is a way of life for the UK 90 percent of people will NOT book or get into a taxi unless they are guaranteed a discount off the meter price
3) we have a general rule of thumb based on price under £5 local job £5 to £10 village job £10 to £50 out of towner £50 plus long distance
4) all long distance prices are quotes and at a SUBSTANTIAL discount to metered rates otherwise you don't get them
5) I wish I could get my drivers to do that it looks proffessional
6) my drivers pay around £40 to £50 per week depending on whether or not they take turns on handling calls to be honest you cannot charge more no one would pay it

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:20 pm 
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1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. = 50p/mile for the car (each way) and £8/hr for me

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. = no, I dont get discounts off fuel or tyres

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run' = 25+ miles

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be = see above

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work = if it pays, why not

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be = £45-£100 depending on takings


Dont forget, if I quote an account punter I add VAT to the Invoice.....lol

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:44 pm 
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1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. The amount set by the LA

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. Very few of our customers get a discount. The vast majority are given by the driver, not the company.

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run'. We have a rota. The trigger is £25. Set by driver agreement.

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be. No different from standard. We do 3 Airports on a set fare (again agreed by drivers) but only as an incentive against other firms in town.

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work. Prefer smart/casual. A collard shirt/polo shirt rather than a crew/v-neck T-shirt.

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be. In a fleet our size around £100. In order to cover staff/office costs. (after HMRC remove their pound of flesh :evil: via VAT)

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:50 pm 
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grumpy wrote:
1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. The amount set by the LA

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. Very few of our customers get a discount. The vast majority are given by the driver, not the company.

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run'. We have a rota. The trigger is £25. Set by driver agreement.

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be. No different from standard. We do 3 Airports on a set fare (again agreed by drivers) but only as an incentive against other firms in town.

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work. Prefer smart/casual. A collard shirt/polo shirt rather than a crew/v-neck T-shirt.

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be.
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In a fleet our size around £100. In order to cover staff/office costs. (after HMRC remove their pound of flesh
:evil: via VAT)


Dont forget you can get most of that back, if not more


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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:58 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:

Dont forget you can get most of that back, if not more


Oh I know, my treasurer keeps reminding me when I go off on a rant about paying VAT on wages. Which, to me, when it's based on the weigh-in before wages, PAYE and NI are removed, looks like a stealth tax. Then again that's why we have a treasurer*, and not me doing the money stuff. :lol: :lol:

*It also helps that in a past life he has a BA(Hons) in finance and a [edited by admin] load of experience dealing with Her Maj's finest. We must have one of the best kept Taxi company books in the UK. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:09 pm 
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I just have a few questions if you'd be so kind as to answer them it is appreciated.

1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. Starting from £3

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. Maximum of £1.50 but don't like discounts

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run" anything over 3 miles

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be. Wouldn't change it

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work. I just wear a shirt and black trousers usually

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be. £60 -£70 as mine is £72 and i think it's quite expensive as the last firm I was with hated them they band me for 3 months luckily i had a general so just worked off the rank but the radio money was £20 cheaper


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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:34 pm 
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1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. Answer: A min of £2 a mile, maybe a bit less the longer the job. Or maybe a fixed hourly rate of £30-50.

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. Answer: Pinching a punter from another firm or regular punter that spend a few quid with the firm.

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run' Answer: More than 20 miles.

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be Answer: 10-20 percent discount.

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work Answer: If the work is there many drivers will wear just about anything.

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be Answer: £100 a week, or 10-15 percent of all jobs.

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:41 pm 
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grumpy wrote:
skippy41 wrote:

Dont forget you can get most of that back, if not more


Oh I know, my treasurer keeps reminding me when I go off on a rant about paying VAT on wages. Which, to me, when it's based on the weigh-in before wages, PAYE and NI are removed, looks like a stealth tax.



I Know ill regret this but why are you paying VAT on wages? I dont recall that one, and Ive been a Ltd company, VAT registered, employed PAYE drivers (not in cabs)

Id only pay VAT against a suppliers VAT invoice - not on wages

im not buying this for a minute......

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In a fleet our size around £100. In order to cover staff/office costs. (after HMRC remove their pound of flesh via VAT)


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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:44 pm 
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I just have a few questions if you'd be so kind as to answer them it is appreciated.

1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. "Fair to who, the driver or the punter?"

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. "Consider, then reject"

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run' "26 and a bit miles"

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be "different" (or the same)

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work "Trousers and shoes too"

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be
"I get to question six, and realise these are PH related"

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:58 pm 
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toots wrote:
I just have a few questions if you'd be so kind as to answer them it is appreciated.

1. What do you think a fair fare rate is. "Fair to who, the driver or the punter?"

2. If you would consider a discount for customers, under what terms would those discounts apply. "Consider, then reject"

3. What do you consider to be a 'long distance run' "26 and a bit miles"

4. If the rate for a long distance run is different to the standard fare rate what would it be "different" (or the same)

5. What do you think of having to wear a shirt and tie (clip on if preferred) for work "Trousers and shoes too"

6. What do you think a fair radio rent/settle would be
"I get to question six, and realise these are PH related"


And that makes a difference because............ :?

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
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I'd probably need my money minded compadre to help with a more concise answer, but we draw in approx £2k in radio fees this is income subject to vat. From that income all the office costs including wages are paid. So in my eyes we pay vat on wages. I may be wrong, but it's how I've always read it. My treasurer reads it differently, but he would;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Fair Fare
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grumpy wrote:
I'd probably need my money minded compadre to help with a more concise answer, but we draw in approx £2k in radio fees this is income subject to vat. From that income all the office costs including wages are paid. So in my eyes we pay vat on wages. I may be wrong, but it's how I've always read it. My treasurer reads it differently, but he would;-)


so youve 20 radios out on rent?

VAT registration is mandatory in your case (about £77,000 or £1500/wk)

Do you issue a VAT receipt for each settle/rent? (your acting illegally if you charge VAT but dont issue a VAT receipt if asked for one)

If each owner pays £100/wk inclusive of VAT you just owe the VATman £16.66/wk but any VAT you pay OUT comes out of the £333/wk your collecting, so the VAT for fuel, leccy, phones, company car leasing, etc, etc, you reclaim out of the VAT the drivers hand to you. You can place all the VAT collected in a high interest savings account and have the interest as an income.

OR....You could downsize under the VAT limits, deregister and not enter the world of VAT and keep all the £100/rent

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