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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:23 pm 
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Did a private hire driver interfere with you as a child?

You have such a downer on the entire trade

The vast majority of ph drivers are responsible law abiding types. Much like your own trade a few idiots give a bad impression of the whole


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:47 pm 
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Did a private hire driver interfere with you as a child?

You have such a downer on the entire trade

The vast majority of ph drivers are responsible law abiding types. Much like your own trade a few idiots give a bad impression of the whole


Thanks for proving the case.

PHC drivers are no different to cabbies. So there's no downer on them.

And like us they're canon fodder to be exploited. And in the circumstances stated they are being exploited more than most. They have no power, are working long and hard and are not represented.

So when I see your sign for the PHDA, it just makes me want to puke. Because the illusion you perpetrate doesn't help them, other than to keep them as calm, servile canon fodder for those ripping them off.

Now I could be wrong. So, tell us all how PHDA has ever improved the lot of their drivers?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:14 pm 
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Well, we all know that Private ire drivers will work their ass es off.

I would say down here most of the crazy hours idiots drive cabs.

They have to get their £500 a week rent from somewhere. :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: EDINBURGH AIRPORT
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:20 pm 
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What have ecph won? onward rank at the moment 140 cars . DECEMBER TO APRIL ..... 12/15 hrs = 8 JOBS at the most, average job £15.00 -[ £2.20]. MAY TO NOVEMBER..... 12 jobs per day. ECPH will have over 330 cars working airport. Trams coming soon , even less fares, the only people going to be making money is the airport. This could actually finish ecph


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:02 pm 
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What have ecph won? onward rank at the moment 140 cars . DECEMBER TO APRIL ..... 12/15 hrs = 8 JOBS at the most, average job £15.00 -[ £2.20]. MAY TO NOVEMBER..... 12 jobs per day. ECPH will have over 330 cars working airport. Trams coming soon , even less fares, the only people going to be making money is the airport. This could actually finish ecph


Think about it. ECPH, is all about expanding their company through work and mobiles. For Woodburn and Gibson, every Ph vehicle is a customer to be charged fees and the more the merry. The airport is simply about securing a work base to grow the company.

Sooner or later ECPH will expand to absorb all the work coming through the Airport, and in the meantime. They will use it as a spring board to service the City. In five years, it wouldn’t surprise me if ECPH, had doubled its fleet size with City Cabs as the only taxi company left operating in the City.

ECPH, is like a virus trying to take over your hard drive. As far as Stevie Malcolm “the fact controller” is concerned, there will never be enough work or mobiles. That’s how he has made his millions, and he’s bloody good at it. :-|

To quote the Borg, you will be assimilated resistance is futile. :-|

Oh and btw, I bet Dod Aird knows the above to be true, and he also knows that his survival as chairman and that of City Cabs as a company, depends on taking out CRT. :-|


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:29 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Foxtrot26 wrote:
Did a private hire driver interfere with you as a child?

You have such a downer on the entire trade

The vast majority of ph drivers are responsible law abiding types. Much like your own trade a few idiots give a bad impression of the whole


Thanks for proving the case.

PHC drivers are no different to cabbies. So there's no downer on them.

And like us they're canon fodder to be exploited. And in the circumstances stated they are being exploited more than most. They have no power, are working long and hard and are not represented.

So when I see your sign for the PHDA, it just makes me want to puke. Because the illusion you perpetrate doesn't help them, other than to keep them as calm, servile canon fodder for those ripping them off.

Now I could be wrong. So, tell us all how PHDA has ever improved the lot of their drivers?

:roll:




where do I start with that, :)

The difference is anyone can come along and for minimal outlay find themselves owning a PHC, a few K on a ropey old skoda and a quick visit to the council and your a bonafide operator legal and licensed by the LA, we don't have caps saying only x number of PH (yet anyway) Christ I know guys over here that have remorgated their homes to buy a hack plate(well the business behind it anyway but that's another topic entirely ) so I really do appreciate what our Hack based brothers are up against. people may say but ah you have to work for a radio base. no you don't, theres nothing stopping any PHC driver striking out on their own. the base licensing laws only apply to fleets of 3 cars or more so theres nowt stopping someone if they truly want to be independent.


But you are right though, cannon fodder is probably an apt way of putting it, no one wants to stand up for themselves. and as a representative for a Newly formed (last year) Drivers Association I feel like i'm hitting my head off the wall at times, Drivers complain their struggling to make ends meet, companies are shafting them left right and centre and they are deeply unhappy at the treatment they receive from the LA. So you say join your local Drivers Association and have a voice, make your grievance heard. Nope too much effort for most Christ we have no membership fees all we ask is that people tell us what the problems and ask them to have an input but even that is too much for most it seems


and as for successes of the PHDA, they are marginal, forcing a review of vehicle restrictions in place for GCC is about our only notable success at this point but there has been a good few small local fights won by ourselves on mainly local concerns. unfortunately the one thing we need to succeed on behalf of drivers is the support of drivers, but alas for many its too much to take an hour out to attend a meeting or register on a website.

I do wonder though, how long will it be before the current group of enthusiastic types who feel they can make a difference behind the PHDA become dissolusioned with the non caring attitude of our colleagues on issues that directly effect them and give up the fight. Its a slippery slope and if you have any thoughts i'd love to hear them


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:43 am 
Ever tried herding cats?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:08 am 
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I'd imagine a lot easier.



Still some of us have to try ;)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:04 am 
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I think Edinburgh Council should be the ones that decide. :shock: I think the chap who mentioned "needless bureaucracy" should consider the same bureaucracy controls taxi numbers :shock: :shock: :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:28 pm 
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Jasbar

Must take my hat of to you, getting a tachograph fitted to your taxi without a change of licence conditions. That'll be you and all the other goody two shoes who would or have never driven long hours. You always have been and always will be a knob.

Do you only have a hard on for PHC drivers and not the many hundreds of street car drivers who have the tools of the trade to work excessively long hours? In your continued tiresome quest for unfettered access, deristriction, delimitation or whatever you call it you appear to ignore the street car drivers who choose to operate their businesses in a fashion that allows them huge hours. Strange to think that if you had your way and there are more taxis, the same street cars would be forced to work longer, much like your PHC scenario.

Anyway your quest to get limited hours is shortly to be blown away once again as all the Central cabs will be doing excessively long shifts of sitting about. Funny that a tachometer will be needed to stop drivers sleeping when ranked!

Now get along and start your next failed campaign to get the city centre ranks expanded ya breast.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:37 pm 
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Chris well said, any current CRT permit holder looking for a job will have a head start when filling out their job application as a security guard. Should make the airport recruitment drive easy as all applicants will have an intimate knowledge of their working area.


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 Post subject: Re: EDINBURGH AIRPORT
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:34 pm 
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City have jumped into bed with ECPH but at what price I wonder? only time will tell. I for one back CRT refusal to have any links to do with ECPH. City drivers are obviously happy with the arrangement so good luck to them.

CRT have been very successful in recent times securing Major contracts with hopefully more to come. Losing out on the Airport is a blow but be assured CRT will re-group and grow, that I have doubt.

Skull, you have your Dog walking duties, so trot along and leave the rest of us to work the Trade.........WOOF!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:40 pm 
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So if city cabs approached you and asked you if you would like a permit to work the airport rank you would refuse it?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:00 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
Sochaux

So if city cabs approached you and asked you if you would like a permit to work the airport rank you would refuse it?


I have never worked the Airport, way to expensive in my opinion. I grudge everytime I pay my £1 drop off charge.

I have no interest in a obtaining a permit, never have done so yes I would refuse such any unlikely approach


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Sochaux wrote:

Skull, you have your Dog walking duties, so trot along and leave the rest of us to work the Trade.........WOOF!


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