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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:23 am 
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toots wrote:
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any license suspension in London is appealed to a Mags Ct.


He did appeal :wink:


I would suggest his representative was . . . Err . . . Crap?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:41 am 
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GBC wrote:
I would suggest his representative was . . . Err . . . Crap?

If I was a betting man I would suggest he doomed himself by his own words when first contacted by the LOs.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:38 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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I would suggest his representative was . . . Err . . . Crap?

If I was a betting man I would suggest he doomed himself by his own words when first contacted by the LOs.

What words were they then? According to the report he didn't give any explanation.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:05 pm 
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I've no doubt he was doing exactly what he was accused of, but there's so many reasonable explanations available, im surprised he was 'convicted' :?

Beyond reasonable doubt and all that . . .

Still, it's a lesson to us all, say nothing incriminating to LAOs if approached in the street, and take proper legal advice if you're called up, or summonsed to court.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Beyond reasonable doubt and all that . . .



civil case.....balance of probabilities :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:46 pm 
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Even at a magistrates appeal? :?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:03 pm 
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Even at a magistrates appeal? :?


I don't think it comes under criminal cases so it would be a civil matter, guilty until proven innocent or as CC puts balance of probability.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:32 pm 
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What words were they then? According to the report he didn't give any explanation.

Perhaps he was doomed by not offering a proper reason.

Unlike some on here I take a big dislike to cherry pickers. But if some are happy for certain drivers to take the cream and leave the s*** for them, then so be it.

But I ain't one of them.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:02 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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What words were they then? According to the report he didn't give any explanation.

Perhaps he was doomed by not offering a proper reason.

Unlike some on here I take a big dislike to cherry pickers. But if some are happy for certain drivers to take the cream and leave the s*** for them, then so be it.

But I ain't one of them.

talk about conflicting answers. On the rules of engagement thread you are advising drivers to listen and say nothing and on this thread you are saying he was doomed for saying nothing. Confusing or what?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:34 pm 
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talk about conflicting answers. On the rules of engagement thread you are advising drivers to listen and say nothing and on this thread you are saying he was doomed for saying nothing. Confusing or what?

It's better to say nothing than something stupid, but better to say something sensible than nothing.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:02 am 
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Sussex wrote:
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talk about conflicting answers. On the rules of engagement thread you are advising drivers to listen and say nothing and on this thread you are saying he was doomed for saying nothing. Confusing or what?

It's better to say nothing than something stupid, but better to say something sensible than nothing.


I think you'll see, if you read what Sussex wrote, that he used the word 'perhaps' which makes a world of difference to the whole context of the statement :wink: Apart from that at first the guy wouldn't say anything and then when he did it was something stupid :?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:13 pm 
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Even at a magistrates appeal? :?



Yes, the bench put themselves in the position of the LA.

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