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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:50 pm 
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Not a bad plan but the problem isn't City taking them on the problem is the central members getting out of their contract with the company. If the carrot is dangled I am quite confident there will a few meeting with a lawyer to see how they can walk away.

But I might be wrong and they will all knuckle down and rank up to do their Poundland fares! The current estimate is that CRT are in the mire to the tune of £700k a year to find for all their recently awarded work.

Anyway B and Q are doing 30% off masonry brushes, surely the brothers can afford to go for these?

Get painting ya fuds.


Ah but a contract works both ways, and if CRT’s "business “practices are found to be negligent or the company officers have failed to have acted in their members' best interests. It would be very difficult for CRT, to come after anybody. Oh and remember CRT’s members are nearly all directors of Limited liability Companies or Partnerships, which has got to afford them some sort of protection. :-|

You would have to check your contract out with a company lawyer, but I don’t think it would be that hard to walk away under the circumstances. :-|

Oh and CRT has not got a good record for pursuing people through the courts and probably couldn’t afford the legal fees to do it anyway.

Can you imagine, CTR getting bogged down in all that expensive litigation when they haven’t got a pot to pi*s in? And I can't see the members going for it, not with those muppets running the show. :twisted:

They would have to hike their radio dues just to take you into court. #-o


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:09 am 
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Skull you have track record in beating the bold boys, can you not offer your services on a quid pro quo basis?

The value of a current depreciating CRT membership is what, £6k and dropping. If a few of them get together and consult a competent firm (McAndrews in Atholl Crescent, good track record, remember they humped the council over plates) if they get out and into the promised land of 7 years guaranteed full paying fares the memory of a CRT share will be history.

Methinks a full committee meeting will be called to draft a response to this impending headache, wonder which alter ego will be tasked with posting it?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:57 am 
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Skull you have track record in beating the bold boys, can you not offer your services on a quid pro quo basis?

The value of a current depreciating CRT membership is what, £6k and dropping. If a few of them get together and consult a competent firm (McAndrews in Atholl Crescent, good track record, remember they humped the council over plates) if they get out and into the promised land of 7 years guaranteed full paying fares the memory of a CRT share will be history.

Methinks a full committee meeting will be called to draft a response to this impending headache, wonder which alter ego will be tasked with posting it?


The thing is, before you pursue anyone legally through the courts, you need money and in this case, it's the CRT members that would have to come up with it.

Essentially, they’d be going into court to fight for a committee that got them into this mess in the first place. And it wouldn’t be the first time. The members would have to be satisfied the committee was acting in their best interest and weren’t simply negligent or incompetent before a legal blow was struck. Then it's about what you stand to get out of it, supposing the decision goes in your favour. And that’s if, your company is still standing at the end of it.

And what if you lost, would the members once again put their hands in their pockets or would it be the committee? I suppose the committee could always put their properties or any savings they have up as collateral as an act of good faith.#-o

Oh and what’s to stop you crashing your own company and setting up a new one to continue trading, the plate is owned by the council not the company?

Nah, I don’t see CRT going after anyone, but I would have a company lawyer check it out just to make sure. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:49 am 
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Oh and remember CRT’s members are nearly all directors of Limited liability Companies or Partnerships, which has got to afford them some sort of protection.


Isn't their cab + plate in the name of the LLP or limited company? Their personal property may be protected but the company's assets are not.

You are right about the plate being council property, but my understanding is that it would have to be returned to the council if the company ceases trading.
From there, it should be re-issued to the next applicant, not re-assigned to the former director of a failed company. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:19 pm 
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Oh and remember CRT’s members are nearly all directors of Limited liability Companies or Partnerships, which has got to afford them some sort of protection.


Isn't their cab + plate in the name of the LLP or limited company? Their personal property may be protected but the company's assets are not.

You are right about the plate being council property, but my understanding is that it would have to be returned to the council if the company ceases trading.
From there, it should be re-issued to the next applicant, not re-assigned to the former director of a failed company. :wink:


The council has never said what they would do in the event of a company crashing and burning. Nor have the ever acknowledged a plate as having a real or an artificial value. All they state is that the plate is the property of Edinburgh council, and that it’s not for sale, nor can it be legally transferred.

The plate may have to be returned to the council, but that’s not to say they wouldn’t let you transfer it into another company, especially under the circumstances.

They’ve certainly transferred a plate from a person into an LLP or LLC. I was once at a meeting where they issued a new plate to an individual who had fallen out with his partner. Remember, the council must be seen to act reasonably under the circumstances.

The truth is, I don’t know how many possibilities there are. That’s why I said you should consult with a company lawyer, to find out what your options are. :-|


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 Post subject: Can Murray Survive This?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 3:39 pm 
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Coming soon an expose from Eric the ex councillor.

A letter will soon be dropping through all CRT members doors detailing some of the past miss demeanours of the holier than thou CRT Secretary. Apparently Eric is claiming that there is irrefutable evidence of the said Secretary offering over company financials to a very wealthy Glasgow businessman several years ago.

Was this not the same allegation that was made about the colkyboy? Can you imagine Murray's defence, "I wish to call Colky, he was there too and he can clear me" the chances?

Bring on the March 3rd AGM.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:48 pm 
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Fat Boab wrote:
Coming soon an expose from Eric the ex councillor.

A letter will soon be dropping through all CRT members doors detailing some of the past miss demeanours of the holier than thou CRT Secretary. Apparently Eric is claiming that there is irrefutable evidence of the said Secretary offering over company financials to a very wealthy Glasgow businessman several years ago.

Was this not the same allegation that was made about the colkyboy? Can you imagine Murray's defence, "I wish to call Colky, he was there too and he can clear me" the chances?

Bring on the March 3rd AGM.


You need to get out in your "Cat D" VW and make some money saaaan! It is Saturday after all!

In fact no. Stay on here for our amusement. x

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:05 pm 
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I can tell you for a fact, ECPH had all the detailed financial records of both CRT and City Cabs, as there were collaborators in both camps.

How do you think Colky ended up working for ECPH?

Murray knew all along what was happening and so did everyone with half a brain but for some strange reason, the majority of CRT’s members refused to believe it, and voted to keep Murray on the committee. Oh and don’t forget, Murray and Co. spent at least 50K chasing Jim and I, through the courts and yet again. Murray was re-elected year after year. :?

Honestly, you couldn’t make this sort of sh*t up. #-o


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Meeow Klanners, you''ll no be out working for 'Poundland Taxis' this evening, is this not your weekly night for dyeing yer barnet?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:24 pm 
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To answer your question “can Murray survive this?” It wouldn’t surprise me. After all the skulduggery (pardon the pun) that’s gone on over the years, I think it would take an epiphany on behalf of nearly every member of CRT, to remove him. They are not the brightest bunch. Although, the fear of losing all that work and the company going under, it might just focus their tiny minds. However, I think it's a bit late to change anything now. #-o


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:34 pm 
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He will toil to survive this one, caught banged to rights bonny lad.

He''ll be gone from patrolling the ranks (remember he was a warden) to painting them!

Between this and the members who have the 'Tony recording' there won't be many left of the bold boys remaining.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:07 am 
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Fat Boab wrote:
He will toil to survive this one, caught banged to rights bonny lad.

He''ll be gone from patrolling the ranks (remember he was a warden) to painting them!

Between this and the members who have the 'Tony recording' there won't be many left of the bold boys remaining.


Well, if the evidence of wrong doing is as damaging as you say, you could have him arrested. Murray has certain responsibilities under company law to act in CRT’s best interests, and that doesn’t include perpetrating a potential fraud by handing over sensitive company information to a competitor. :-|


"If you sit by a river long enough, you'll see the body of your enemy float by." :twisted:


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:33 pm 
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Mabus on fastie writes:

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Heard last night Onward Cars who dont want to join the ECPH takeover can join the ComCab circuit making them a mixed fleet.

Contract work only.

What a really sad state our trade is in if its true.


#-o :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Aye I hate to say it, but it looks like the Skull and Taylor were right all along. :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:36 pm 
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"Heard in a rank from a bunch of sweetie wives" + written on an Internet forum = MUST be true!


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:37 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
"Heard in a rank from a bunch of sweetie wives" + written on an Internet forum = MUST be true!


Aye well, if anyone should know... #-o


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