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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:17 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Prove me wrong on the issue of regulation and licencing. You have the app, how did cab app prove you are who you say you are ? Our apps customers know that they are safe in the knowledge that we hold a booking office licence, does cab app hold any kind of booking office licence ?


I can't prove anything, just my viewpoint. I am a fan of cabapp, it's just what I have been looking for and the more drivers who use it the better it is for every driver who does.
cab:app verified my licence with the Local Authority public register. They accept sight of a licence document. Does your circuit have proof of yours?
Every taxi in Scotland is licensed and subject to regulation.
cabapp customers are given, driver and vehicle details and a booking reference, easy to trace. Ever tried to call a radio circuit to report a driver whose name you don't know, whose badge number you couldnt see and vehicle reg you didn't have time to write down?
If my daughter or son was in town alone, I think I know the safest way to get a cab.

I'll put something else to you. Just for now assume apps were here first, everyone used them and I tried to persuade you to use a local radio circuit instead.
But everyone could ply for work outside their own boundaries, and park up in other towns, it could be a free for all I hear you say.
cabapp restricts you to working your own area. Ok not all apps are that good. dont know if yours does or not but some time in the future when everyone uses smart phones and cabapp remember you heard it hear first :D


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:37 pm 
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WoW what a take it personal response :roll: Its only a debate on the Merit of the APP,

Used as part of a radio circuit whom have a booking office licence, I don't mind (you do know why Booking offices are licenced and the responsibilties that entails to hold such a licence) the problem ive got is an APP for individual operators/street cars, nothing personal and i hope it makes you money but my concern is that APP booking systems in this way are operating outwith current legislation, i feel there is no difference between this kind of APP operation to running a radio circuit, OUR app provider gets round this by giving us exclusivity and in the knowledge that our radio circuit plays by the rules and regulation of the terms of its operating licence.

CAB hAPPy there is no gaurantee or concrete evidence that this kind of APP booking systems are run on the same terms as an established radio circuit, i think they should be, i also dont believe the APP systems we are debating are as fool proof as a they make out, i think they are wide open to any nutter whom wishes in what ever way they wish to abuse the easy access to customers or personel detail etc.

Many on this forum know who i am, they also know why i call my self Private Reggie, yes i had a Private Reg and i knew Skull hates cabbies with Private Reggies, You have called yourself CAB hAPPy :? you have only recently joined the forum and have only commented on the APPS issue's, i think i have enough reason to doubt, hey you don't even have a location, it could be the Channel islands for all i know, i hope im wrong and you become a regular because the TDO is a good forum for discussion and debate, warning though, there are a lot of intellegent cookies on this forum :wink:

APP booking outwith an established radio circuit just takes jobs away from radio circuits, they should not be encouraged to do so, the only time street cars will use them is during quiet periods thus taking a job away from a radio circuit, if a radio circuit becomes quieter for longer because of this then street cars will also lose out as when the radio is busy the street is busy.

If i was still a street car i still wouldn't touch an APP in this way, but its only my opinion, good luck with it and i hope you never suffer loss as a result of using this app.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:24 pm 
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Personal! PR? Who felt the need to check out a profile instead of taking the debate on its own merits?

Lets put that to bed. For me it's just debate, if anything appeared personal, I apologise it was not intended.

Yes I am relatively new to the forum, yes I like it, it is very informative.

Your concern over regulation of apps I agree with, and I hope in time they will be. In fact I am pretty sure they will.
And the same for remote telephone booking circuits.
Not sure law law and regulations currently applied to The trade, taxis, phc's and booking offices is effective.
It is in place and better than nothing but needs updated for the modern world.
When was the first booking premises license issued in Scotland? What happened before that?

What's required of a booking office premises license that an app operator couldn't provide under current law.?
Open an office anywhere you like, choose the cheapest authority! Comply with employment law and crime prevention bodies, have a effective communication system, and your in business.


Trouble with legislation on apps might be like the Internet itself. Apps are coming online from all over the world, from faceless people, with no address. Would you ban them altogether or let them run?

Taxis drivers are I believe shrewd businessmen. People readers, reading the signs, doing their own deals day in day out. They have to be to keep afloat nowadays. So apps will have to be good to survive.

cabapp will do for me on face value.
The guys in my area asked a lot of questions of the guy who invented it. They are no mugs!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:34 pm 
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Oh just got that CABhAPPy thing, very good :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:21 pm 
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Welcome to the forum Cabhappy :D

Scotlands Taxi and phc are run by The Justice Department and im sure their is enough concern to bring about the Legislation of APP booking sysems that operate outwith existing radio companies :wink:

Im sure CC could investigate this issue further, i see he has another thread and hey he is more aware of the law on both sides of the border than me :wink:

Again Welcome :D

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:49 pm 
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Just had a good meeting with the Cab App reps in Aberdeen where more drivers signed up but need more drivers to sign up also.
50p a job and in Aberdeen we get to add £1 for a booking so cant really lose to be honest.
Ive looked at a few of these Apps and in my opinion this beats the rest. You need to see it in action to see how well developed and thought out the app is.
No brainer for me and if i want a job i accept,if not declineso nothing to lose.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:53 pm 
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stationloon wrote:
Just had a good meeting with the Cab App reps in Aberdeen where more drivers signed up but need more drivers to sign up also.
50p a job and in Aberdeen we get to add £1 for a booking so cant really lose to be honest.
Ive looked at a few of these Apps and in my opinion this beats the rest. You need to see it in action to see how well developed and thought out the app is.
No brainer for me and if i want a job i accept, if not decline so nothing to lose.


Same here 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:10 pm 
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Up and running in Aberdeen and had a few job already but once more drivers are onboard this will take off. Customers love it too so no brainer to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:12 pm 
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stationloon wrote:
Up and running in Aberdeen and had a few job already but once more drivers are onboard this will take off. Customers love it too so no brainer to me.



where your takings up today ??



lets us know at the end of the week if your up or down or just the same


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:34 pm 
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Bringing this up to the front for johnnydee.

Cabapp is steadily building up its driver base throughout Scotland, and uk.
Mostly drivers making use of the free credit card facility, but with the odd job thrown your way what's there to lose.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:50 am 
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I have been using Cab:App for the past few months. Jobs are slowly building up, it is down to the driver to advertise the simplicity of the App to the customer, a couple of minutes chat helps all on the system.
If you work nights and a punter wants a taxi first thing in the morning, tell the punter about the App it gives a job to the morning shift, vice versa.
All taxi drivers are vetted and only approved when legal documents are shown. No private hire drivers, call an office and you may get a PH, use Cab:App and guarantee the job is given to a licensed, trained and insured taxi driver.
Punters have to give phone number and email address, if anything goes wrong either end both drivers and passengers are traceable. Safety is one bonus.
This week I have been plucked out of the middle of a rank twice because I now have a credit card machine, a free one I might add, no £15-£20 a month fee for me. That saved me waiting probably half hour each time to get to point car.
Money in the bank a couple of days later, full fare paid.

When you sign up you are sent free receipt books and cards for the customer, also stickers for the inside or outside of the cab. If you need more a message can be sent through the App and more will come, again free.

No brainer is indeed the words to describe it. Even if you are with an office it adds a string to the bow.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:09 am 
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Fannyadams wrote:
I have been using Cab:App for the past few months. Jobs are slowly building up, it is down to the driver to advertise the simplicity of the App to the customer, a couple of minutes chat helps all on the system.
If you work nights and a punter wants a taxi first thing in the morning, tell the punter about the App it gives a job to the morning shift, vice versa.
All taxi drivers are vetted and only approved when legal documents are shown. No private hire drivers, call an office and you may get a PH, use Cab:App and guarantee the job is given to a licensed, trained and insured taxi driver.
Punters have to give phone number and email address, if anything goes wrong either end both drivers and passengers are traceable. Safety is one bonus.
This week I have been plucked out of the middle of a rank twice because I now have a credit card machine, a free one I might add, no £15-£20 a month fee for me. That saved me waiting probably half hour each time to get to point car.
Money in the bank a couple of days later, full fare paid.

When you sign up you are sent free receipt books and cards for the customer, also stickers for the inside or outside of the cab. If you need more a message can be sent through the App and more will come, again free.

No brainer is indeed the words to describe it. Even if you are with an office it adds a string to the bow.


hopefully these things are the future
as for ph they get vetted the same as taxi drivers(at least they are meant to)
so who really cares about that,apart from the guys on here who are clearly trying to punt the software.
the sales pitch by certain members is blatantly transparent,(buoy up the qualified driver to make him think he is elitist to get him to install it)truth be told you'd be better selling this to ph theres more of them and its far cheaper option for them.
taxi trade has to many dinosaurs in it for it to take off,but you never know and i wish you luck.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:57 am 
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Had cab app now for 2 months and still waiting for my first job, don't even bother logging in now. I'm in Glasgow btw. :sad:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:04 am 
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ALI T wrote:
as for ph they get vetted the same as taxi drivers(at least they are meant to)
I am sure they are by licensing authorities to be granted a licence in the first instance.
Cab:App vetting is a further process and it weeds out the PH and only allow Taxi Drivers.

I read some offices have their own Apps.
I have heard from a few ConCab drivers that they have an App too. They pay their extortionate radio dues and also pay a quid on top of each job to use the company App.....
If the phone system is busy a pre-recorded message tells the customer to use the App...... Driver being asked to pay the company twice and getting it right up em from the people they pay for work. If the phone system is busy why would their App side not be, same system same drivers,,,, Doh Dumb

Cab:App has no affiliation with any office. Ideal for the independant driver or those who would like another way of gaining hires...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:08 am 
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E7fan wrote:
Had cab app now for 2 months and still waiting for my first job, don't even bother logging in now. I'm in Glasgow btw. :sad:
It runs in the background, a job may have come through and you are now switched off! That will help make it work.
It is up to drivers to promote it at the moment, once people hear how good it could be they will hail.
Remember it is new to both customers and drivers and will be slow to start, to be switched off gives no chance on both fronts.


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