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captain cab

Post subject: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:03 pm

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Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence, councillors told

BOURNEMOUTH councillors are being recommended to amend their driver qualification policy for taxi and private hire vehicle drivers at a licensing board meeting on Tuesday.

The amendment will mean that all new applicants will be required to hold the mandatory qualification in transporting passengers by taxi and private hire before their licence can be accepted.

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/1 ... lors_told/

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grandad

Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:17 am

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captain cab wrote:

MANDATORY!!!!!

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:42 am

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http://www.bournemouth.gov.uk/CouncilDe ... Dates.aspx

REPORT TO LICENSING BOARD

1.0 Recommendation: That the Board review the necessity for an initial skills for life assessment in the application process for Public Carriage Drivers’ licence, as part of the Council’s test of ‘fit and proper’ applicants, as more applicants are applying having already gained the requisite qualification.

That the policy be amended to the effect that all new applicants are required to hold the mandatory qualification in Transporting Passengers by Taxi and Private Hire before their application can be accepted.

2.0 Summary: Bournemouth Borough Council is at the forefront in promoting higher standards of customer service within the Public Carriage trade. In line with this policy the Council mandated that all drivers should hold the BTEC or equivalent qualification in Transporting Passengers by Taxi and Private Hire. Drivers are required to demonstrate a basic skills standard in literacy and maths, which supports Central Government policy recommendation that all adults should possess such skills. These basic skills are included in the assessment of the BTEC or equivalent qualification of Transporting Passengers by Taxi and Private Hire that is currently required

At its meeting on 23 July 2009 the Board resolved that: Failure to obtain a qualification recognized by the Council, within twelve months from the initial grant, means that a licence will not be renewed except where exceptional circumstances are accepted by the Licensing Board. Currently, applicants who do not hold such a qualification are required to undertake a basic skills assessment to establish capability of completing the BTEC or QCF. These assessments are carried out by Bournemouth & Poole Adult Learning and used to lead to a national standard qualification in literacy, at a cost of £45 each based on a minimum of six applicants per session or £270 per course. The Council currently arranges these courses with Adult Learning on a monthly basis.

3.0 Reason for recommendation: When the existing policies were agreed, training courses were limited to one or two colleges. Now that the availability of BTEC/QCF courses has increased, more and more people are applying for a Public Carriage Driver’s Licence having already achieved the necessary qualification. Therefore fewer people need to do the basic skills standard assessment in literacy and maths This makes the running of separate skills assessments less sustainable. The Course is generally run on a monthly C 2 basis, but we are finding it more difficult to fill the course with six applicants. In order to process our applications in a timely manner. We need to continue to provide monthly assessments as it would not be appropriate to delay courses until they are full but this does mean that the Council has to currently pay the shortfall to Adult Learning. Fees are charged on a cost recovery basis so if we continue as we are, we will need to consider increasing our course fee to applicants who apply for a Public Carriage Drivers’ licence before passing the Transporting Passengers by Taxi and Private Hire BTEC or equivalent qualification. In order to avoid these increases and to simplify the application process it may be considered appropriate to request that all applicants have the necessary qualification before we accept an application.

4.0 Background detail: Section 57 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 allows the Council to impose a requirement for persons to evidence that they are fit and proper to hold licence. Section 51 & 59 require that the Council shall not grant a licence to a person who is not fit and proper.

5.0 Consultation: N/A

6.0 Alternative options:

6.1 Confirm existing policy

6.2 Amend existing policy

7.0 Summary of Financial/Resource Implications – N/A

8.0 Summary of legal implications – Any challenge to a change in Council policy can only be made by way Judicial Review.

9.0 Summary of Environmental impact N/A

10.0 Summary of Equalities and diversity impact N/A

11.0 Summary of Risk Assessment: N/A

Background papers: None

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captain cab

Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:49 am

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of course, there'll be a few companies making profit from this

http://www.thecollege.co.uk/courses/int ... axi-driver

Costs:

Full fees for this course are £350.00.

None for unemployed status applicants.

The problem with raising bars is that if they're raised too high people crawl underneath - little wonder we have out of town taxis :sad:

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:01 pm

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captain cab wrote:

Sometimes there is just no pleasing some people :roll:

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captain cab

Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:27 pm

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toots wrote:

Sometimes there is just no pleasing some people :roll:

In Manchester it takes 20 weeks to become a PH driver - then they wonder why people are licensing themselves 22.4 miles away in Rossendale.

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:45 pm

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is speaking English mandatory?

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:41 am

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captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

Sometimes there is just no pleasing some people :roll:

In Manchester it takes 20 weeks to become a PH driver - then they wonder why people are licensing themselves 22.4 miles away in Rossendale.

Oh I see, so because standards are lacking elsewhere they should lower their standards? Personally I think they should be upping the standard elsewhere :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:01 am

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toots wrote:

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

Sometimes there is just no pleasing some people :roll:

In Manchester it takes 20 weeks to become a PH driver - then they wonder why people are licensing themselves 22.4 miles away in Rossendale.

Oh I see, so because standards are lacking elsewhere they should lower their standards? Personally I think they should be upping the standard elsewhere :wink:

The 20 weeks probably has nothing to do with standards and more to do with lazy council departments.

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:44 am

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toots wrote:

captain cab wrote:

toots wrote:

Sometimes there is just no pleasing some people :roll:

In Manchester it takes 20 weeks to become a PH driver - then they wonder why people are licensing themselves 22.4 miles away in Rossendale.

Oh I see, so because standards are lacking elsewhere they should lower their standards? Personally I think they should be upping the standard elsewhere :wink:

Toots I don't think CC is suggesting that BUT there is always going to be a problem if there is no NATIONAL STANDARD i.e if every driver Nationwide had to meet the SAME criteria no problem otherwise people will be looking for the loopholes and cheaper options

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:55 pm

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Edders 23 wrote:

I don't disagree but why do the standards have to be low?

Grandad wrote:

The 20 weeks probably has nothing to do with standards and more to do with lazy council departments.

It takes a day (in most cases) to obtain a license once you have obtained all the required paperwork, such as qualifications, knowledge tests if applicable, medicals, DBS etc, the council would have to be asleep to make it drag out for 20 weeks

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:23 am

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toots wrote:

Grandad wrote:

The 20 weeks probably has nothing to do with standards and more to do with lazy council departments.

So assuming that they are not asleep, why do you think it takes them 20 weeks?

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Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:29 am

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grandad wrote:

So assuming that they are not asleep, why do you think it takes them 20 weeks?

CRB check, DVLA 'taxi test', DVLA license check, Transport qualification.

Down here it's generally 6 months plus.

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Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:48 am

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grandad wrote:

toots wrote:

Grandad wrote:

The 20 weeks probably has nothing to do with standards and more to do with lazy council departments.

So assuming that they are not asleep, why do you think it takes them 20 weeks?

Did you not read what I wrote?

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trotskys twin

Post subject: Re: Taxi drivers should require qualification to get licence

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:58 pm

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wannabeeahack wrote:

is speaking English mandatory?

Tens of thousands of PH drivers in London are illiterate, incapable of reading or writing English

how did that happen ???? well the operators test the Drivers and 95% of the operators are crooks and scum so voila too many drivers poxy earnings. Heard a certain Union is seeking legislation to limit the number of PH Driver licenses =D>

And that testing be removed from the operators and be given to an independent testing Authority.

Well done that Union =D>

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