Taxi Driver Online

See when we vote for independence Sussex I hope you'll have the decency not to post in the Scottish section

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

Jasbar if you disagree with the whole system so much why drive taxis at all??

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

Tell me you're not suggesting that one should only drive a taxi if they are in agreement as to how the system works?

Don't you think that people have a right to voice their political opinion without fear of being excluded or persecuted as a consequence?

Don't you think then that people have the right to purchase the right to hold a plate so they can choose to work as they wish? It also seems to always crop up that people on the forum should not have a pseudo and tell people to their face. Is it not the individuals human right to decide if they have a pseudo or not.

The taxi trade is a business whether you like it or not. So let the owners be owners and the drivers be drivers and the ones that want to be owners but at no financial cost to themselves go buy a rickshaw.

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Kaiser writes:


I don’t have any problem with the above, and that’s exactly what would happen if qualified drivers were given unfettered access to the tools of their trade.

However, what you appear to want is a driver to pay an artificial premium for something that should be his by right.

The taxi trade doesn’t operate in a restricted customer transport market, in the truest sense, as Ph, for all intents and purposes, do the same job. The only real restriction is fettering access to the tools of a qualified driver’s trade. And that’s where your artificial plate value comes from. It is little to do with running a business and all about hiking rentals, which in turn, drives up plate “values.”

As for the licence plate, it’s the property of Edinburgh council, and it can’t be legally sold or transferred, and that’s a simple fact. And that’s not the same as legally buying and owning a licence with an intrinsic value.

If you buy anything, it’s a job.

The above is the truth whether you like it or not, Kaiser.



I don’t have a problem with you having a pseudonym, but if you actually believe what you say, then why wouldn't you want people to know your real name? Unless of course, you don't really believe what you write?



The taxi trade is a “business” in name only. In truth, it’s far removed from how a real business operates, and that's why you are losing your "business" to PH.

One either has rights or one does not. Rights are not a commodity to be bought and sold.
Buying a plate is not possible under the 1982 act, and participating in a scheme designed to circumvent the law is a risk.
Any business takes risks. They carry the chance of loss, that's why they are called risks. Buying a plate is one of those risks.
Delimiting does not take away your plate nor your ability to hold it.

You are not buying the right to work as you wish, you are in fact buying the ability to restrict the right of others to do the same.

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Don't be dragged into fighting a losing battle with Skull and Jasbar, they do losing battles big time, I'm talking eye popping missions big time

Out with the deresction issue Gary is a good guy !!!

Sussex is a good guy too and is hugely welcome to the Scottish section, cheap shots weaken your opinion, we can only judge the unknown on the words they post

I'm not unknown

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Whatever you vote for, I will post in the Scottish section.

To rip the pi**, which ever way you end up with.

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IDFIMH

Dougie, if your taxi trade keeps on winning the way that it does, you'll be working for ECPH, sooner than you think.

In today's market Gary, im winning, thats all that matters to me now

As for working for PH, no chance, thats just something YOU believe will happen

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Well said PR. I've not lost my business to PH. Jasbar and Skull probably hope that will happen in a perverse way, only to justify their beliefs.

Everyone seems to have a lot to say about the demise of the Hackney Taxi Trade in Edinburgh, whether it be Central's fault, City's fault the council etc etc.

Has anyone got any ideas on how the Trade can be repaired?

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Kaiser, I don't have beliefs. I merely pointed out the reality of your situation based on the facts. And I think if you were honest with yourself, you would acknowledge this to be the case.

Oh and trust me, it makes not a jot of a difference to me what you want to believe.

You're spot on there Kaiser! If the private hire is the future why aren't jasbar and skull getting involved??

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

Right lets not turn this into taxi drivers who are online but so so sensitive.
I'm hoping you took that as the joke it was meant to be
Private reggie.....calm down dear

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

Aye, you're right guys.

I'll admit I must have been wrong.

The ranks aren't backed up, I don't see 20 plus taxis ranked at the Playhouse waiting for a fare to the Waverley.

I don't see long lines of taxis with their begging lights cruising for a fare.

I don't see clusters of drivers stopping for a chit chat because they're too busy to.

I don't see the garages awash with cabbies, they're all so busy they just don't have the time.

I don't see the saloon car PH beside me on the Walk with passengers on board, while I haven't had one for half an hour.

I haven't notice the number of fares dropping from just over three to now two fares per hour.

Or the number per night from 26 on a weeknight, 42 at weekends, 50 on a busy Saturday down to 16/26/26.

And I do see hoardes of PH parked in their zones awaiting their next fare. The Grassmarket is awash with them.

And I don't see the myriad new faces in the trade replacing those who were enjoying such good fortune they retire, went back to their previous trade or just simply gave up.

And I've never had any complaints that we're too expensive.

And things are so good I've not noticed that tipping cabbies is now a distant past gig for most.

And I'm not aware of the increasing number of cabbies who are now on supplementary income benefits to allow their families to survive.

And I've not noticed the increasing number of our trade who are falling behind with mortgages, who are selling possessions off to stay afloat.

And I'm not aware of the cabbies who are not taking a night off, instead working longer every day of the week.

AYE, you wise guys are absolutely spot on. Things have never been better.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"