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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:30 pm 
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Well, that's a sore one, I wonder if there will be an appeal? :-|


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:51 pm 
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Breathtaking!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:45 pm 
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Edinburgh Taxi driver guilty of murdering minicab driver

AN Edinburgh taxi is facing a life sentence after a jury convicted him of running over and murdering a private hire driver following an argument at a filling station.

Stephen Nolan, 48, and Ebrahim Aryaei Nekoo, 41, had been involved some months earlier in a minor accident when both their vehicles were damaged.

They met by chance early on a Saturday morning as they filled up at Sainsbury’s petrol station in Westfield Road, Edinburgh, and words were exchanged.

After the row, Nolan, of Redhall Place, Edinburgh, led the way in his black cab to a car parking area at the Fords Road entrance to the nearby Saughton Park.

Mr Aryaei Nekoo, of Carrick Knowe Hill, Edinburgh, got out of his Vauxhall Zafira, and within a matter of seconds he was lying severely injured, and Nolan had driven away from the scene.

Nolan claimed Mr Aryaei Nekoo had produced a knife and that he jumped back into his cab and was chased by Mr Aryaei Nekoo, who “somehow” went under the vehicle and suffered massive crushing injuries.

The jury at the High Court in Edinburgh, however, rejected Nolan’s account and decided by a unanimous verdict that he had driven deliberately at Mr Aryaei Nekoo, had struck him and had driven over him on 24 March last year.

One of the strongest pieces of evidence for the prosecution was a series of tyre tracks made by the cab, showing it had accelerated hard and had twice been facing the exit of the car park but had veered off in another direction. There was no sign of any braking.

The judge, Lady Wise, said life imprisonment was the only sentence for murder, but she would have to set the minimum period to be served by Nolan and she was obliged to obtain a background report on him. Sentence was deferred until next month and Nolan was remanded in custody.

source: http://www.scotsman.com/news/taxi-drive ... -1-2858202

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:21 pm 
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Not much to say on the matter now Mr Skull


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:20 pm 
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Not much to say on the matter now Mr Skull

It's not easy to get an accurate picture from court reports, so anyone giving views on them should be forgiven if their view doesn't end up the correct one.

The Jury heard all the evidence and convicted on that basis. But would anyone on here want their future decided by the next 12 people walking down the street? :?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:14 pm 
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Not much to say on the matter now Mr Skull



I don't think there's much to say, other than I don't believe either of the two, went to the park intending to commit murder. It was just a situation that got out of hand, which had tragic consequences for both parties involved.

As for our legal system, I believe manslaughter should have been offered as a lesser conviction, but it wasn't even on the table. In other words, the jury faced a choice, a murder conviction or letting Steven walk and the prosecution knew that was unlikely to happen under the circumstances.

Tell me goalie, do you believe it was murder?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:20 pm 
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Not much to say on the matter now Mr Skull

It's not easy to get an accurate picture from court reports, so anyone giving views on them should be forgiven if their view doesn't end up the correct one.

The Jury heard all the evidence and convicted on that basis. But would anyone on here want their future decided by the next 12 people walking down the street? :?


One strong juror could have potentially swung the murder decision the other way. Our court system is a lottery and very few jurors actually know how it works. :-|


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:54 pm 
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Yes I believe it was murder and the act of a coward, I think yer man Nolan thought he was the bees knees who could intimidate people but when someone actually stood up to him and was prepared to give him a "square go" he bottled it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:43 pm 
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Yes I believe it was murder and the act of a coward, I think yer man Nolan thought he was the bees knees who could intimidate people but when someone actually stood up to him and was prepared to give him a "square go" he bottled it.


Well, you are of course, entitled to your opinion, but since you've raised the subjects of bottle and cowardice perhaps you wouldn't mind telling us your real name?

It's not Joseph O'Connor by any chance?

Oh and just in case you are wondering my name is Garry Thomson. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:18 am 
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It's not a question of my bottle or integrity that's in doubt here, I'm up and on here at this time of day because I have a job to go to and a life to live unlike some people, what I will say to you with 100% certainty is my name is not Joseph O,Conner and the name of Gary Thompson means absolutely nothing to me


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:25 pm 
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I don't think it was murder. I think the degree of premeditation necessary for a murder charge just wasn't there. two guys willingly went in for a square go. The victim followed willingly. Do we even know what was on his mind. After all, you don't follow someone to a quiet area to have it out without some malice in your mind.

And if such malice did exist, who could doubt Nolan when he said he was trying to extricate himself from the scene. perhaps he bottled it and in his haste to depart the homicide took place.

Now, it could be argued that even in such a circumstance the driver of the vehicle has an obligation to drive the vehicle carefully, to avoid colliding with others.

And in such a circumstance Nolan was responsible for the death of the victim.

But murder? Not as I see it.

And I'm sure we'll see an appeal, and a pleading down of the sentence. Which was probably the desired outcome in the first place.

So, the appeal then.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:32 pm 
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It's not a question of my bottle or integrity that's in doubt here, I'm up and on here at this time of day because I have a job to go to and a life to live unlike some people, what I will say to you with 100% certainty is my name is not Joseph O,Conner and the name of Gary Thompson means absolutely nothing to me


Well, if it's not a question of your bottle or integrity, then it should be so much easier to tell everyone your real name? You seem to think it's okay to call someone a coward and a bottler but when asked for your real name, you appear to go weak at the knees.

Oh as for my real name being Garry Thomson, unlike you, I don't feel the need to hide behind a pseudonym when casting aspersions about someone's character.

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Yes I believe it was murder and the act of a coward, I think yer man Nolan thought he was the bees knees who could intimidate people but when someone actually stood up to him and was prepared to give him a "square go" he bottled it.


Look at it this way Goalie, I was merely giving you the chance to lead by example so you would not be seen as a coward and a bottler that hides behind a pseudonym. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:35 pm 
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If he 'bottled it' then by definition he must be not guilty of murder.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:52 pm 
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Tell me Garry what purpose does it serve if I tell you my name? I can 110% guarantee you that you or any other person on this forum will not know me, I had a small interest in this case so I followed from afar but read all the posts on here which we're very much one sided in my opinion so after the jury. Reached there verdict I thought that there might have been some readdressing of this balance but unfortunately there was none so I just asked the question of why you. Had went quiet!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:53 pm 
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Tell me Garry what purpose does it serve if I tell you my name? I can 110% guarantee you that you or any other person on this forum will not know me, I had a small interest in this case so I followed from afar but read all the posts on here which we're very much one sided in my opinion so after the jury. Reached there verdict I thought that there might have been some readdressing of this balance but unfortunately there was none so I just asked the question of why you. Had went quiet!!!!!!!!!!


I am sure you would agree that it's easy to come on to an Internet forum and attack someone's character from behind a pseudonym, and that's exactly what you did. I am merely giving you the chance to prove you are worthy of your "opinion." As only a coward and a bottler would use his anonymity as a means to denigrate others and then claim he was readdressing the balance.

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Yes I believe it was murder and the act of a coward, I think yer man Nolan thought he was the bees knees who could intimidate people but when someone actually stood up to him and was prepared to give him a "square go" he bottled it.


Now you claim you can guarantee that no one on this forum will know you, then what have you got to lose?

Why not give us your name and the number of the taxi you drive? Then everyone will know you are a man of integrity and not just some lowlife scumbag looking for an easy victim to feel good about himself. :-|


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