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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:33 pm 
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Ok Garry my name is Colin brown, I don't drive a taxi I live about 25 mins drive away from the city of Edinburgh and as I stated earlier I had a small interest in the case, I hope this helps you although I don't see how it can


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:42 pm 
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Ok Garry my name is Colin brown, I don't drive a taxi I live about 25 mins drive away from the city of Edinburgh and as I stated earlier I had a small interest in the case, I hope this helps you although I don't see how it can


Okay Colin, supposing this is your real name as I can only you at your word. What is your "small" interest in the Nolan murder case? As you seem to have a strong opinions when it comes to the character of the man.

I should also point out that I was a taxi driver for over twenty years, and I know from personal experience how things can spiral out of control. I personally could have found myself in the same position as Steven Nolan on more than one occasion but lucky for me, everyone managed to walk away. And that's why I don't believe Steven Nolan intended to murder Mr. Nekoo. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:06 pm 
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Can I ask you a question Garry? What is your interest in this case? We're you in court at all during any of the trial? I know Mr Nolan had a awful lot of associates there, were u one of them?
It's all been questions from you so far so perhaps you will answer mines. What did you know and I mean know not hearsay of Mr Nekoo?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:20 pm 
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Can I ask you a question Garry? What is your interest in this case? We're you in court at all during any of the trial? I know Mr Nolan had a awful lot of associates there, were u one of them?
It's all been questions from you so far so perhaps you will answer mines. What did you know and I mean know not hearsay of Mr Nekoo?


I wasn't in the court, but I do know Steven Nolan. I wouldn't say I knew him well but in passing, and I also know some of his friends. I always found him very pleasant. I know he was no Saint but then again, neither was I.

I never knew Mr. Nekoo but since the incident stories did get back to me that he was no shrinking violet but as you say, it's hearsay.

Actually, I got the feeling that both Nekoo and Nolan were not unlike each other in temperament, and both could be volatile giving the circumstances.

Now how about your "small interest" in the case? :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:55 pm 
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I knew Mr Nekoo from a few years back and I know for a fact that he wasn't a shrinking violet but I also know that he wasn't the type of guy who went looking for trouble but that he wouldn't back down from it either hence why I called Mr Nolan a coward because that is what I truly believe.
I think because Mr Nekoo did follow him to the park and was prepared to go toe to toe with him I think Mr Nolan bottled it, if he had the bottle to back up his threats and taunts (which were caught at the petrol station on CCTV and were shown in court) then he would have got out and settled the dispute like men but I think he underestimated Mr Nekoo and to save face he deliberately drove the car at Mr Nekoo which is obviously what the jurors believed as well. The sad thing about all of this Garry is that there's a 10 year old boy out there who doesn't have a father, there's a wife out there who doesn't have a husband and here is something else for you to think about there is a family over in Iran without a son and a brother, Mr Nekoos father died not long after his son was murdered and before his killer was brought to justice.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:58 pm 
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And also Garry just to quote one of your own quotes "now that's a fuc*ing shame"


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:40 am 
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And also Garry just to quote one of your own quotes "now that's a fuc*ing shame"


I think I said "now that's a fuc*ing shame" in response to the press reporting the claim that Nekoo had a knife.

However, I take your points, and they are well-made and yes. I believe that Steven drove his taxi at Mr. Nekoo, but I don't believe he intended to run him over.

I think Steven acted recklessly along with Mr. Nekoo which resulted in Mr. Nekoo falling under the taxi but that's not murder.

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The sad thing about all of this Garry is that there's a 10 year old boy out there who doesn't have a father, there's a wife out there who doesn't have a husband and here is something else for you to think about there is a family over in Iran without a son and a brother, Mr Nekoos father died not long after his son was murdered and before his killer was brought to justice.


As I stated before. I've been in a few scrapes myself, which could have ended in someone's death, including my own. So I know how things can get out of control but was it my intent to murder someone? No. And I don't believe anyone involved wanted to murder me either.

The fact is, when you follow someone to a park in the dead of the night, anything can happen and unfortunately. Everyone has to pay the price.

Now consider if there had been a fight and Mr. Nekoo or Nolan had been killed by a punch?

I don't believe Mr. Nekoo wanted his son to grow up without a father, his wife a husband, his brothers, a brother or his father a son. Anymore than Steven Nolan wanted the death of Mr. Nekoo and his incarceration for potentially the rest of his life. However, both of them drove to the park.

Manslaughter, yes. Murder, no.

Oh and I apologise for my insensitive comment but it was in context with the false report that Mr. Nekoo had a knife. :-|


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:49 am 
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The false report which stemmed from the false claim that "without a shadow of a doubt there will be a knife at the scene"
I accept your apology for your insensitive comment(s) Garry but the thing that really angers me is that they are made on here for all to see for eternity and as you and I once were 10 year old boys we will both appreciate the natural curiosity of which will lead Mr Nekoos son to search for things in the not to distant future and I'm pretty sure you will agree that they are insensitive and do not make great reading for a young man growing up and looking for answers!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:11 am 
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I don't think it was murder. I think the degree of premeditation necessary for a murder charge just wasn't there. two guys willingly went in for a square go. The victim followed willingly. Do we even know what was on his mind. After all, you don't follow someone to a quiet area to have it out without some malice in your mind.

And if such malice did exist, who could doubt Nolan when he said he was trying to extricate himself from the scene. perhaps he bottled it and in his haste to depart the homicide took place.

Now, it could be argued that even in such a circumstance the driver of the vehicle has an obligation to drive the vehicle carefully, to avoid colliding with others.

And in such a circumstance Nolan was responsible for the death of the victim.

But murder? Not as I see it.

And I'm sure we'll see an appeal, and a pleading down of the sentence. Which was probably the desired outcome in the first place.

So, the appeal then.


An expert in law too Jasbar??
This topic should have been avoided and the insensitive comments that went with it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:12 am 
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Jasbar wrote:
I don't think it was murder. I think the degree of premeditation necessary for a murder charge just wasn't there. two guys willingly went in for a square go. The victim followed willingly. Do we even know what was on his mind. After all, you don't follow someone to a quiet area to have it out without some malice in your mind.

And if such malice did exist, who could doubt Nolan when he said he was trying to extricate himself from the scene. perhaps he bottled it and in his haste to depart the homicide took place.

Now, it could be argued that even in such a circumstance the driver of the vehicle has an obligation to drive the vehicle carefully, to avoid colliding with others.

And in such a circumstance Nolan was responsible for the death of the victim.

But murder? Not as I see it.

And I'm sure we'll see an appeal, and a pleading down of the sentence. Which was probably the desired outcome in the first place.

So, the appeal then.


An expert in law too Jasbar??
This topic should have been avoided and the insensitive comments that went with it.

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The false report which stemmed from the false claim that "without a shadow of a doubt there will be a knife at the scene"
I accept your apology for your insensitive comment(s) Garry but the thing that really angers me is that they are made on here for all to see for eternity and as you and I once were 10 year old boys we will both appreciate the natural curiosity of which will lead Mr Nekoos son to search for things in the not to distant future and I'm pretty sure you will agree that they are insensitive and do not make great reading for a young man growing up and looking for answers!!!!!!!



You make a very salient point about Mr. Nekoo’s 10-year-old son searching the Internet looking for answers. And to be honest, I never really gave it a thought. However, and I don’t mean this to sound insensitive but if Mr. Nekoo had thought about his obligations toward his family, and in particular, his son, instead of following Nolan to the park. You and I would not be having this debate "the sins of the father” one might say.

I’m not saying I, and others like me should not take responsibility for what we write on the Internet but unfortunately, this is the world we now live in.

Nekoo and Nolan were both reckless and things got out of hand. And I really don’t believe either one of them drove to the park to commit murder.

As for the Nolan murder trial, let's just say for now our legal system was working to its own agenda, and it is little to do with truth and justice. :-|


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 12:10 am 
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Consider a couple of scenarios: Supposing a fight had ensued in Saughton Park, and Nolan had been killed by a single blow, would it be murder or manslaughter or perhaps just an unfortunate accident?

Now what if Nekoo had run Nolan over supposing, Nolan had slipped and fallen in front of Nekoo’s car, would that have been murder?

The point I’m trying to make, is that I believe, had things happened the other way around. The lesser conviction of Manslaughter would have been in the frame.

Mr. Nekoo would have been portrayed as a hard working loving family man with a 10-year-old son and a pillar of the community. It would have been Nolan’s taunts, which drove Nekoo to confront Nolan in the park, and the result would have been an unfortunate accident and at worst a manslaughter conviction. No one could have possibly believed that Neckoo set out with the intent to murder anyone.

Why do I believe this?

Mr. Nekoo was an Iranian National, and that’s almost like having diplomatic immunity in this country. Everyone is going ar*e over tit to prove that our legal system is beyond reproach, and that it's our sense of justice, and fair play what makes us British.

Nolan was a human sacrifice for our “Justice” system, which has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that we all live in a "great" country. :-|


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Ah now we see your true "COLOURS"


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Ah now we see your true "COLOURS"


Please elaborate, tell me where I have it wrong? Is that not how our legal system works? :? Oh and spare me the race card, if I was a racist, you would hear me loud and clear, and I wouldn't pull my punches.

I believe in free speech.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:21 am 
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Ah now we see your true "COLOURS"


Oh and Goalie, if you really believe that my posts are racist, report me to the police for committing hate crime. You might even be afforded the opportunity to act as a witness against me, supposing it ever made it into court.

Personally, I think you are the one with the race problem, if that's how you've chosen to interpret my post?

:-|


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