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Should the committees of both the companies have time limits on how long they can serve?
Is it healthy to allow members to be on the committee for years and years?
We've seen with the airport that it came down to personalities that f**** it.
The committees have become a closed shop unless you're one of the chosen ones.
Who checks that the committees are behaving correctly??

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."

I think you have set the cat amongst the pigeons with this post but its a very good question.

I think that the only way to change the system is to get rid of proxy voting. If a member can't be bothered to vote then that vote should be null and void. The only time a proxy should be allowed is if the member is on holiday or I'll but has submitted their vote. Any other members that don't attend the AGM should have their voting right withdrawn. That way only the members votes that attend the AGM will be counted.

I agree that ego's were a big factor in the demise of the Central/City tender.

A closed shop Artur? Could you elaborate on your views with this one?

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

The Skull and I said precisely this when Central's committee tried to roust us through the courts to silence us prior to the AGM that Coolky was ultimately binned. Well he cut and run before he could be binned, allegedly taking the companies information with him on a dongle.

That little spat cost £54,ooo apparently, plus the court fees paid to us for their privilege. Both Skull and I would like to go record to thank Central owners for their largesse and would ask them if they would kindly do it again, as our coffers are getting dangerously low.

Anyway, the companies you mention are multi-million pound business run along the same lines as a bowling club.

The "Directors" were never interviewed, offered no CV, have no track record of running a business and are intellectually inferior for the positions they hold (See above re more legal suit. This is of and concerning the company My Lud )

There is no room for personalities in business. If the two companies had any reasonable management, which they don't, they would have seen the business case to join together and tackle PH. It's now too late. The Glasgow boys have now reached the position where they want to be.

They've made the breakthrough at the airport, the will expand their fleet accordingly, and their cars will be covering every part of the town providing their discounted service to the taxi trade's customers.

Meanwhile, Central's drivers will be clogging up the ranks in the town. Instead of 20 cars on the Omni rank, there will 20 plus Central's extra 10 or 20 sheeple. The rank will extend along London Road, all waiting for that dream fare of a trip to the Waverley.

But of course A&M, nothing will change. Yes no one should serve more than two terms in a co-operative management. But the proxy system allows it to happen, indeed encourages it.

Let's face it, Murray Scummer is the prime example. He is a buffoon, a perhaps devious scumbag who has somehow managed to survive all the company's troubles. How has he done this? The man is not fit for purpose, has no qualifications for the job he allegedly does, has no experience that could be drawn on other than his involvement with Central, and certainly does not merit his position in a multi-million pound company, not in any reasonable business sense of course. So, exactly how has he survived?

Can you imagine him taking his CV to any other company for a position as a Company Secretary?

"You want to be our Company Secretary Mr Fleming?"

"Yes, please."

"Tell me, did you sanction the case against the two taxi drivers?"

"Er, yes ..."

"And, how much did it cost?"

"It was ... er ... £54,000."

"And was that all?"

"Well we did have to shell out nearly 9 grand to the two taxi drivers."

"Tell me, Mr Fleming. Do you think this was what a professional Company Secretary should be doing?"

"Er ... Er ..."

"Thank you Mr Fleming, we'll be in touch ..." then turning aside and saying to herself, NOT!!!

Am I repeating myself by saying that Central's shareholders are stupid?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Interesting points regarding the payments made by Central and the cost of the court fees. I certainly think that the CC committee run a better show than what Central do, this is proven by the confidence shown by the members votes!

I don't agree with your views on PH expanding and having cars sitting everywhere. You and others look always at the negative of PH getting awarded the Airport. There is always the possibility that ECPH may provide a terrible service and have a high percentage of complaints. Passengers may soon opt to use black taxis if they continue to get drivers who don't know where they're going of poor service. If they stop using them at the Airport then the word will soon spread through to other customers who use them for city work.

Time will tell but I feel this is a great chance for City Cabs to provide an excellent service and really show the Edinburgh Hackney Taxi Service is the best option for customers. Other companies should be trying to help City provide this service instead of being hell bent on bad mouthing and painting a negative picture. Not a good image for the Hackney Trade.

Lets hope for the Hackney Taxi Trade that City Cabs provide the same Excellent service levels they provide for their regular customers in the City out at the Airport.

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Kaiser writes:


You only have to drive fifty miles west along the M8 to witness for yourself the expansion of Ph. And you would have to be dreaming to think Edinburgh will be any different.



Kaiser, were you drunk when you came up with this? No business invests serious cash into providing a poor service. They know where their interests lie.



Kaiser, there is not that much to driving a taxi or Ph you can get wrong, especially with the technology available today.

Ph will use the Airport to expand their fleet and when up to strength, City Cabs will be cut out of the loop. In other words, City Cabs has approximately five years to deal CRT, a mortal blow in the job stakes by taking their major contracts and mobiles.

I'll expect your apology Skull when I am proved right.

Although I do like the idea of a mortal blow to CRT! Lets see if that materialises?

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Well, if it doesn't, in five years, City Cabs will be back in the City clogging up the ranks along with CRT.

Oh and Kaiser, I heard all of this superior service malarkey back when Ph numbered around 200 old bangers, about twenty years ago, and now they've landed the biggest contract in town. And I predicted nearly twenty years ago, what would happen with the airport if the taxi trade ignored PH?

I don't think they landed it because of service!

I don't think they will be able to continually provide a service. Do you seriously believe that the paying customer is going to put up with drivers who don't know where they're going? No they won't.

Watch this space Skull.

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Kaiser, this has all been said, and before the advent of Sat Nav's, or iphones. History is simply repeating itself through you.

The traveling public already knows their destinations and what route to take, and that's before they appear in the back of your cab.

Kaiser, your argument is showing its age...........................................

I thought at times you had some sense Skull but now I know you talk crap.

Are you saying that all tourists and business travellers know where they're going when they arrive at Edinburgh Airport? They also know what route they are going to be taken. What a lot of keek!!!

Sleep well Skull, I think you will be snoring already, too much of the vino!!

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

Kaiser, you need to get into the real world.

A couple of months back I drove hundreds of miles down to RAF base Honington, to my eldest son’s passing out parade. Everything was booked online. Not only did I have a detailed route map of how to get there. I'd visited the Air Base via google satellite. There were no surprises. I typed in the post code, and the rest is history.

Edinburgh is a village, in comparison to most cities.

You really need to wake–up.

I take it that you are not familiar with modern technology?

Kaiser writes:



I get the feeling you've been talking to a City Cabs committeeman to come up with that shi*e. That's exactly what was said almost twenty years ago, when Ph started taking the staff home from city-center pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses and Hotels, and now they have City Cabs operating as a backup service at the Airport.

I remembered being sent to the Point Hotel for a job going to the Waverley Station, while the Ph driver in front of me, was called in for a job to the airport because the hotel concierge was getting a bung.

I made the point to CRT's committee of the time, that we were being used as a backup service, and that we were helping them to grow to take even more work out of the City.

Trust me on this, Ph will target the quality work until they have the strength in numbers to service the quantity. And when that happens, City Cabs services out at the airport will no longer be required.

In short, you've got five years in which to ram it to CRT, or you will end up back in the City clogging up the ranks with CRT.

Sorry I took so long to reply skull but you put me to sleep, I thought Jasbar was boring, f@ck me you take the prize. Have you got a repetitive speech disorder??

I haven't been talking to any committee man, I'm able to come to my own conclusions and ideas. I don't believe for one minute that City Cabs will be surplus to requirement at the Airport when the current deal finishes. As I have said before I hope City provide a quality service so that they are awarded the contract next time round.

I have to laugh at you regarding your preparations for a trip. I don't think every passenger plans to that extent. I think you should get a job in the PH industry given your love of them.

Please reply to this about 10:30 so as I can get to sleep.

Thanks Skull

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Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

This is the same myopic view that landed the Airport contract in the lap of the Ph, as it was with the pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses and hotels over the last twenty years. You don’t honestly think that Ph is going to change, a so far, unchallenged strategy of growing their fleet to take the work, do you?

Kaiser, your myopia is symptomatic of buying a plate and pretending to be a businessman.
I’m not making any of the above up. It's a proven fact of how the Ph has been operating for the last twenty years and not only in Edinburgh.






Aye your right about my preparations for my trip, most passengers plan their trips over their mobile phones and iPads and often on the move. I did my planing on my computer laptop at home.

You are dreaming Kaiser...........

What a load of nonsense Skull. As long as I've been driving taxis all I've heard is PH will take over.
I have to ask Skull....if you predicted the so called only in your heed monopoly PH have got why didn't you start a PH company after your premonition?? Otherwise you just sound like your full of wind and pish!

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"I'm going to tell you the story about the geese which fly 5,000 miles from Canada to France. They fly in V-formation but the second ones don't fly. They're the subs for the first ones. And then the second ones take over - so it's teamwork."