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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:49 pm 
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I don't think they will be able to continually provide a service. Do you seriously believe that the paying customer is going to put up with drivers who don't know where they're going? No they won't.


I get the feeling you've been talking to a City Cabs committeeman to come up with that shi*e. That's exactly what was said almost twenty years ago, when Ph started taking the staff home from city-center pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses and Hotels, and now they have City Cabs operating as a backup service at the Airport.

I remembered being sent to the Point Hotel for a job going to the Waverley Station, while the Ph driver in front of me, was called in for a job to the airport because the hotel concierge was getting a bung.

I made the point to CRT's committee of the time, that we were being used as a backup service, and that we were helping them to grow to take even more work out of the City.

Trust me on this, Ph will target the quality work until they have the strength in numbers to service the quantity. And when that happens, City Cabs services out at the airport will no longer be required.

In short, you've got five years in which to ram it to CRT, or you will end up back in the City clogging up the ranks with CRT.[/
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Artur, Molshy and Kaiser you shouldn't be so dismissive of Skull, he's not to far of the mark of the mark in my opinion. I don't agree that they'll be overtaken as a service provider at the airport in future but I do agree that if they get a good strategy and stick with it they will overtake Central both in fleet size and customer base.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:52 pm 
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Artur when I started driving taxis the Ph numbered a couple of hundred, and I bet most of them were wedding cars and the like. City and Central had the lion’s share of the work. You name it Artur, pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses, hotels and businesses at all points of the City phoned CRT or City Cabs. Ph was so insignificant. They were only servicing the dives that taxis didn't want work, and now look at them?

I take it that Ph landing a 30 million-pound contract with City Cabs working as backup service doesn’t really mean anything to you? #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and pro rata for you to be earning what I was making twenty years ago, for hours worked, you would have to double your present income to come close. Your trade is now a low-paid industry where drivers have to work ridiculous hours just to make ends meet.

And you think the Ph is going to stop with the airport contract? #-o #-o #-o #-o


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It's not about being dismissive boab you fat kant. It's about the doom and gloom predictions from skull.
The black cab trade is held back by the self serving committee folk that run the 2 companies. Good cabbies no doubt but in your words boab fuds when it comes to understanding business.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:03 pm 
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Artur when I started driving taxis the Ph numbered a couple of hundred, and I bet most of them were wedding cars and the like. City and Central had the lion’s share of the work. You name it Artur, pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses, hotels and businesses at all points of the City phoned CRT or City Cabs. Ph was so insignificant. They were only servicing the dives that taxis didn't want work, and now look at them?

I take it that Ph landing a 30 million-pound contract with City Cabs working as backup service doesn’t really mean anything to you? #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and pro rata for you to be earning what I was making twenty years ago, for hours worked, you would have to double your present income to come close. Your trade is now a low-paid industry where drivers have to work ridiculous hours just to make ends meet.

And you think the Ph is going to stop with the airport contract? #-o #-o #-o #-o


Why are City cabs seen as the back up? The real problem is city and central should each have had their own arm of private hire vehicles by now. The only 2 companies I know that have no interest in diversifying their interests. You're being deliberately provocative though Skull :-)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:17 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
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Artur when I started driving taxis the Ph numbered a couple of hundred, and I bet most of them were wedding cars and the like. City and Central had the lion’s share of the work. You name it Artur, pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses, hotels and businesses at all points of the City phoned CRT or City Cabs. Ph was so insignificant. They were only servicing the dives that taxis didn't want work, and now look at them?

I take it that Ph landing a 30 million-pound contract with City Cabs working as backup service doesn’t really mean anything to you? #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and pro rata for you to be earning what I was making twenty years ago, for hours worked, you would have to double your present income to come close. Your trade is now a low-paid industry where drivers have to work ridiculous hours just to make ends meet.

And you think the Ph is going to stop with the airport contract? #-o #-o #-o #-o


Why are City cabs seen as the back up? The real problem is city and central should each have had their own arm of private hire vehicles by now. The only 2 companies I know that have no interest in diversifying their interests. You're being deliberately provocative though Skull :-)


Artur, I supported Alan Johnston CRTs then Chairman's proposal, to bring Ph into the company, probably over 15 years ago, and we got shot down in flames. :-|

I think it's a wee bit late but you could give it a try. :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:26 pm 
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I don't think they will be able to continually provide a service. Do you seriously believe that the paying customer is going to put up with drivers who don't know where they're going? No they won't.


I get the feeling you've been talking to a City Cabs committeeman to come up with that shi*e. That's exactly what was said almost twenty years ago, when Ph started taking the staff home from city-center pubs, clubs, restaurants, guest houses and Hotels, and now they have City Cabs operating as a backup service at the Airport.

I remembered being sent to the Point Hotel for a job going to the Waverley Station, while the Ph driver in front of me, was called in for a job to the airport because the hotel concierge was getting a bung.

I made the point to CRT's committee of the time, that we were being used as a backup service, and that we were helping them to grow to take even more work out of the City.

Trust me on this, Ph will target the quality work until they have the strength in numbers to service the quantity. And when that happens, City Cabs services out at the airport will no longer be required.

In short, you've got five years in which to ram it to CRT, or you will end up back in the City clogging up the ranks with CRT.[/
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Artur, Molshy and Kaiser you shouldn't be so dismissive of Skull, he's not to far of the mark of the mark in my opinion. I don't agree that they'll be overtaken as a service provider at the airport in future but I do agree that if they get a good strategy and stick with it they will overtake Central both in fleet size and customer base.


The thing is Boab, if Ph overtake CRT and or City Cabs in fleet size, why do they need them as backup to service the airport? I suppose they could bring them in to do the wheelchair work. #-o :)

And once the taxi trade has lost its overall numerical superiority in the market. Then Ph is free to tender and service any contract they wish and without interference from the competition. As Ph would be the dominant force with a far more flexible model of operation. :-|


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And then Jasbar nudged you and kissed your ear gently and you realised it had just been a PH dream.......

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:02 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
It's not about being dismissive boab you fat kant. It's about the doom and gloom predictions from skull.
The black cab trade is held back by the self serving committee folk that run the 2 companies. Good cabbies no doubt but in your words boab fuds when it comes to understanding business.

Steady chum, less of the 'kant.' And you are completely off the mark with your analogy about 'committee folk running companies' for securing a 5-7 year contract worth many millions, well that'll do me.

Anyone and I include you here who has joined or signed up to taxi a co-operative gets the current style of management that has served it well over the years. It's what a co-operative does, it allows people like you the opportunity to join and receive the benefits that through many hard working and loyal years of service and commitment from cabbies that then allows you and others to attack and alter the very thing that has fed you.

Couldn't be much simpler.

Tell me you knew what a co-operative was and operated as when you were happy to sign on the dotted line?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:08 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
And then Jasbar nudged you and kissed your ear gently and you realised it had just been a PH dream.......


Artur, I know you see the truth in what I am saying. You might not like it, but that's because you've bought into being an off-the-shelf pretendy businessman.

It's a bitter pill to swallow after paying out all that money for a plate, but that won't change the truth, of your situation.

Unless of course, you believe that Ph are simply going to down tools and hand you back the airport after five years? #-o


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:22 pm 
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Skull of course it's a major coup for ECPH getting into the airport. I bet they can't believe their luck. I think we all agree now that the black cab trade should have controlled PH over the years. No doubt Skull if PH were ever going to make waves in Edinburgh it's going to be now...

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Skull you seem to be a one trick pony! All PH this and PH that. Here's a poser for you Skull! Seeing as you know so much about PH! How many PH cars do you think ECPH will have when the contract begins on the 15th of April, I prefer to call it GIRFUYCD "get it right fu$kin up ye central day" has a canny ring to it mate. So come on Skull educate me ya blethering bafoon!

Are you asking Jasbar for the answer?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:42 pm 
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Fat Boab wrote:
Artur and molshy wrote:
It's not about being dismissive boab you fat kant. It's about the doom and gloom predictions from skull.
The black cab trade is held back by the self serving committee folk that run the 2 companies. Good cabbies no doubt but in your words boab fuds when it comes to understanding business.

Steady chum, less of the 'kant.' And you are completely off the mark with your analogy about 'committee folk running companies' for securing a 5-7 year contract worth many millions, well that'll do me.

Anyone and I include you here who has joined or signed up to taxi a co-operative gets the current style of management that has served it well over the years. It's what a co-operative does, it allows people like you the opportunity to join and receive the benefits that through many hard working and loyal years of service and commitment from cabbies that then allows you and others to attack and alter the very thing that has fed you.

Couldn't be much simpler.

Tell me you knew what a co-operative was and operated as when you were happy to sign on the dotted line?


Boab you've taken that wrong or personally ;-)
It's very easy to moan about those in charge. I applaud the City cabs committee for having the balls to make a brave commercial decision regarding the airport contract.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:43 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
Skull of course it's a major coup for ECPH getting into the airport. I bet they can't believe their luck. I think we all agree now that the black cab trade should have controlled PH over the years. No doubt Skull if PH were ever going to make waves in Edinburgh it's going to be now...


Artur, luck had nothing to do with it. They have a proven business strategy with a single objective, and that’s to grow their company while hoovering up all the work they can get their hands on in the process. It’s not rocket science. :-|


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:45 pm 
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Artur and molshy wrote:
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It's not about being dismissive boab you fat kant. It's about the doom and gloom predictions from skull.
The black cab trade is held back by the self serving committee folk that run the 2 companies. Good cabbies no doubt but in your words boab fuds when it comes to understanding business.

Steady chum, less of the 'kant.' And you are completely off the mark with your analogy about 'committee folk running companies' for securing a 5-7 year contract worth many millions, well that'll do me.

Anyone and I include you here who has joined or signed up to taxi a co-operative gets the current style of management that has served it well over the years. It's what a co-operative does, it allows people like you the opportunity to join and receive the benefits that through many hard working and loyal years of service and commitment from cabbies that then allows you and others to attack and alter the very thing that has fed you.

Couldn't be much simpler.

Tell me you knew what a co-operative was and operated as when you were happy to sign on the dotted line?


Boab you've taken that wrong or personally ;-)
It's very easy to moan about those in charge. I applaud the City cabs committee for having the balls to make a brave commercial decision regarding the airport contract.

You haven't answered my question.


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Boab you actually asked me 2 questions.....yes I know and knew what a co operative was before signing up. Was I happy signing up to a cooperative?? Yes I was boab but there's nothing wrong in debating alternatives.
Do you agree boab that a fairer system might be set terms for both the committees??

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