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Grandad you might want to read Kelly v Liverpool City Council [2003] EWCA Civ197, in relation to the separation of costs for the various aspects of licensing different types of vehicle – see paragraph 15 of the transcript ?

London fees down of course he he mind some wanted the surplus spent on enforcement

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RURAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE

Date: Tuesday 4th September 2012
Time: 6.30 p.m.
Venue: Council Chamber 2, Parkside, Station Approach, Burton Street, Melton Mowbray


Licensing – Hackney Carriage / Private Hire
3.13 The licensing of taxis and drivers is considered to be a service which, under the Charging Policy, should achieve cost recovery. Historically, the fees and charges have not reflected cost recovery and therefore this objective is not being met, with full cost recovery estimated to require an increase of over 400%.
3.14 However the scope of the service requires consideration and it needs to be considered whether licence fee payers should cover the cost of their enforcement. It is considered that the enforcement of licences is principally for the benefit of the wider public and as such a case exists that licence applicants should not support this activity, i.e. that the fee charged should equate solely to the costs associated with acquiring a licence.
3.15 On the basis that enforcement costs are excluded, the shortfall in fees to achieve cost recovery falls to an increase of 100%. It is however recognised that this is a scale of increase which would be unpalatable to the service users. Therefore, an increase of 25% is proposed as an approach that balances the requirements of the charging policy with a sum reasonable to service users. It is anticipated that similar increases will be required in future years to redress the shortfall.

I read this on the website as well. I thought that the sentence that I have highlighted was interesting.

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Grandad,

They waste a lot of money over the age of vehicles, loads of meetings? If they scrapped the age restriction and just stuck to the vehicle passing a test,they would save a fortune.

Interesting what you can find when you get a break down? A request I did, gives you an idea

I found the drinks card quite interesting ?

The Council provided a link to the meeting that gave the committee delegated powers but the link didn't work. However I have had a look around at the minutes of the meetings around the time that they say the delegated powers were given and the only reference to the licensing of taxis, operators and drivers states:- Delegated functions 1. To exercise the Council's powers and duties in respect of the provision of public transport, parking and use of the highway except the regulatory functions relating to the licensing of taxis, operators and drivers. I can find no mention of the committee giving delegated powers to the Head of Regulatory Function or the Licensing officer.

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Grandad,

Then complain to the Local Gov Ombudsman.

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IDFIMH

There is a meeting of drivers with the council this morning. i have got all my paperwork ready to ask the question as advised by you and Mancityfan. I am told that the BBC may be either at the meeting or outside the meeting regarding the data protection issues. Hopefully if they are permitted into the meeting they will also here about the licensing issues as well.

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Grandad,

Ask when and by whom officers were delegated powers to set fees.

TBH the more I think about the above the more I think your council has no idea about the 1976 Act.

Say they agreed with the objections, do they have powers to change the fees set by councillors? I very much doubt they do.

I don't know about the workings of your council, but I suggest a Scrutiny Panel (or similar) needs to have a complete look at those running the Licensing Dept, because their actions have shown them to be completely unfit for purpose.

Tell them that they are right at the top of the TDO clueless council league.

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It is the only list that they are likely to top this year.
But tempting as it may be, I may hold back from pointing this out today. Now tomorrow, well who knows what tomorrow will bring.

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Grandad,

And you think that you have problems! This is the latest proposal by Cardiff licensing - Nearly 100% increase!!! Where do these guys come from?

Recommended fees and charges - Hackney Carriage April 2013.

Licence.


Hackney carriage vehicles Renewal.

Annual - Now...£230.00 Proposed - £435.00

6 Months Now...£157.00 Proposed - £231.00


Strangely!!!!

Private Hire Vehicles Renewal

Annual - Now...£230.00 Proposed - £97.00

6 Monthly Now...£157.00 Proposed - £62.00

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