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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:50 am 
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£700 for two trips by Cumbria police commissioner in chaffeur-driven Mercedes



Nearly £700 of public cash was spent on trips in a chauffeur-driven Mercedes to take Cumbria’s crime commissioner to two night engagements.

Documents reveal the office of the man overseeing county crimefighting was charged £313 to take Richard Rhodes and his wife to-and-from his home in the south of the county to Rydal Hall at Rydal, Ambleside, in January.

It was also handed another bill of £385 for a trip from home and back to The Pheasant Inn at Bassenthwaite Lake, in February.

Bosses at Mr Rhodes’ office say these were the only two times a private hire company was used to drive him to a night meeting or speaking engagement – and he stopped this practice once he saw the bill.

Stuart Edwards, chief executive of the Cumbria Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner, said a driver and car had been hired for Mr Rhodes’ “personal safety”.

This was because of the miles he covered and the hours he was working.

On both occasions a firm marketing itself as a provider of executive vehicles was used. It provided an E-Class Mercedes saloon.

Mr Rhodes was elected to the new post of police and crime commissioner in November and last week published his four-year police plan.

Mr Edwards said: “A pivotal part of the police and crime commissioner’s role is to meet the public and listen to their views on the future policing priorities.

“As part of gaining people’s views the commissioner undertakes a number of evening speaking engagements across the very large geographic county of Cumbria, often finishing late at night and following a busy working day.

“As a result of the long hours the commissioner was working it was decided for personal safety reasons that support would be provided in terms of a driver for some evening functions with long and late return journeys.

“There were only two instances when a private hire company was used to drive Mr Rhodes to an evening meeting or speaking engagement and these both resulted in a travel time of between one-and-half-hours and two hours late at night.

“When the final invoices were received and the commissioner was appraised of the cost he immediately stopped the practice of hiring drivers. A review took place with alternative arrangements now being progressed. The first engagement was a meeting with high-ranking church figures while the second was a speaking engagement. Documents seen by the News & Star show that both times the chauffeur waited at the venue before returning the couple home.

The first job lasted eight hours and thirty minutes while the second clocked in at seven hours.

Mr Rhodes has been provided with a car to carry out his duties and he also used a hire car while waiting for this to be delivered, his office confirmed.

Mr Edwards added: “The commissioner, as expected, spends considerable time out talking to people in the community.

“Again, given the large geographic area of Cumbria, this results in considerable mileage being undertaken. For example the commissioner has in the last two months travelled 3,600 miles.

“The mileage costs have been assessed.

“The most cost effective way has been to provide the commissioner with a car rather than paying the cost of private mileage.

“While waiting for the delivery of a permanent vehicle a hire car was used as a viable alternative.”

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:54 am 
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23.4 mi, 35 mins

Cost in licensed taxi £48 one way :roll:

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:53 am 
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23.4 mi, 35 mins

Cost in licensed taxi £48 one way :roll:



Lady of the Night yourself to the Coppers mate.


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On both occasions a firm marketing itself as a provider of executive vehicles was used. It provided an E-Class Mercedes saloon


At that price I'd want an S-Class :wink:

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Waste of public money?


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I never criticise folks for using the taxi/PH trade.

But do the customers always have to drink?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
I never criticise folks for using the taxi/PH trade.

But do the customers always have to drink?


There was no suggestion that the chap was having a drink.
The suggestion was that after working a full day and then attending these functions in the evening, he would be over tired for driving the return journey. This is happening a lot and is very sensible. If he was to drive home whilst tired and cause an accident he would be in serious trouble. Many businesses will not allow their employees and executives to drive home from the airport due to the laws on corporate manslaughter.

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Police workers arrested after expenses leak



Two police workers have been arrested on suspicion of misconduct and leaking information about the crime commissioner’s expenses.

The two, who have not been named, were arrested after details of Richard Rhodes’ £700 trips in a chauffeur-driven limo were revealed.

Cumbria police today confirmed that a 47-year-old man and 50-year-old woman had been arrested on suspicion of data protection offences and misconduct in a public office.

Both, who are police civilian workers, have been suspended from work and bailed until next month. A third, a 59-year-old man, has been interviewed and suspended. He was not arrested.

The arrests come after details were leaked about Mr Rhodes’ use of a chauffeur-driven Mercedes to take him to two evening engagements.

Documents revealed his office was charged £313 to take him and his wife to-and-from their home in the south of the county to Rydal Hall at Ambleside, in January.

Another bill of £385 was for a trip from home and back to The Pheasant Inn at Bassenthwaite Lake, in February.

Bosses at Mr Rhodes’ office said the trips were the only two times a private hire company was used to drive him to a night meeting or speaking engagement – and he stopped this practice once he saw the bill.

Stuart Edwards, chief executive of the Cumbria Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner, said a driver and car had been hired for Mr Rhodes’ “personal safety”.

This was because of the miles he covered and the hours he was working.

On both occasions, a firm marketing itself as a provider of executive vehicles was used. It provided an E-Class Mercedes saloon.

Mr Rhodes was elected to the new post of police and crime commissioner in November and last week published his four-year police plan.

Mr Edwards said: “A pivotal part of the police and crime commissioner’s role is to meet the public and listen to their views on the future policing priorities.

“As part of gaining people’s views the commissioner undertakes a number of evening speaking engagements across the very large geographic county of Cumbria, often finishing late at night and following a busy working day.

“As a result of the long hours the commissioner was working it was decided for personal safety reasons that support would be provided in terms of a driver for some evening functions with long and late return journeys.

“There were only two instances when a private hire company was used to drive Mr Rhodes to an evening meeting or speaking engagement and these both resulted in a travel time of between one-and-half-hours and two hours late at night.

“When the final invoices were received and the commissioner was appraised of the cost he immediately stopped the practice of hiring drivers.

“A review took place with alternative arrangements now being progressed. The first engagement was a meeting with high-ranking church figures while the second was a speaking engagement.

Documents show that both times the chauffeur waited at the venue before returning the couple home.

The first job lasted eight hours and 30 minutes while the second clocked in at seven hours.

Mr Rhodes has been provided with a car to carry out his duties and he also used a hire car while waiting for this to be delivered, his office confirmed.

Mr Edwards added: “The commissioner, as expected, spends considerable time out talking to people in the community.

“Again, given the large geographic area of Cumbria, this results in considerable mileage.”

http://www.timesandstar.co.uk/cumbria-p ... rPath=home

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:12 am 
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Ooooppppsssss they've been sussed #-o


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often finishing late at night and following a busy working day.


Sounds like some taxi drivers I know :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:21 pm 
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I would have thought such expenses would be above board and for all to see courtesy of a FOI request anyway...why should it become a crime that merits an arrest?


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what do you expect from fecking coppers :shock:


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Arrest of Cumbrian whistle-blowers a threat to free speech, MPs warn

The arrest of whistle-blowers for allegedly leaking details of a Police and Crime Commissioner’s limousine journeys represents a threat to free speech and sets a dangerous precedent, MPs have warned.

Home Secretary Theresa May was urged to intervene after Cumbrian Police detained a third person in connection with the alleged leak of PCC Richard Rhodes’ expenses to a local newspaper.

Documents passed to journalists revealed that Mr Rhodes, who was elected to the £65,000 a year post in November, had twice taken trips in a chauffeur-driven Mercedes, at a cost of almost £700.

Two police workers were arrested and suspended last week on suspicion of breaching data protection laws and yesterday a 54-year-old man from Penrith, who does not work for the police, was also arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice.

But with PCCs legally obliged to publish details of their expenses anyway, the Cumbrian force has been accused of a dangerous overreaction which could deter whistle-blowers from exposing alleged corruption.

Tim Farron the Liberal Democrat MP for Westmorland and Lonsdale said the arrests were a threat to free speech.

He said: “Politicians of all colours regularly praise whistle-blowers – and it is wrong to seek to silence whistle-blowers in this case.

“Details of the expenses of public officials ought to be publicly available anyway. We shouldn’t have to rely on leaks to find these things out.”

He added: “To arrest these staff members is high handed, a threat to free speech and a very dangerous precedent.”

Fellow local MP Jamie Reed, who represents Labour in the constituency of Copeland, has written to the Home Secretary to demand an investigating into Mr Rhodes’s conduct.

He said it would be indefensible if the arrests had come as a result of a complaint from Mr Rhodes’s office.

Such an act would not only damage the office of the Cumbria Police & Crime Commissioner beyond repair, but more importantly, damage the reputation of the Cumbria Constabulary,” he wrote.

MPs on the Home Affairs select committee also raised the matter with Mrs May, but she refused to be drawn insisting it was an operational matter for the police.

Stuart Edwards, the chief executive of the office of Cumbrian Police and Crime Commissioner, defended Mr Rhodes’s actions.

He said: “As a result of the long hours the Commissioner was working it was decided for personal safety reasons that support would be provided in terms of a driver for some evening functions with long and late return journeys.

"There were only two instances when a private hire company was used to drive Mr Rhodes to an evening meeting or speaking engagement and these both resulted in a travel time of between one and half hours and two hours late at night.

"When the Commissioner was appraised of the cost he immediately stopped the practise of hiring drivers. The Commissioner has personally reimbursed the full cost of the journeys.”

Mr Rhodes, a former headmaster and magistrate, has now been provided with a taxpayer funded vehicle to carry out his duties.

A spokesman for the Cumbria Constabulary said: “These arrests form part of an ongoing investigation by Cumbria Constabulary which was launched after police received concerns that confidential information was leaked to the media relating to the Police and Crime Commissioner.

“Initial concerns were raised by a member of staff within the Office of the Police and Crime Commissioner (OPCC) after a member of the local media approached the OPCC for a comment on a story they intended to publish.”

The spokesman added: “Cumbria Constabulary has internal ‘whistle-blowing’ policies and processes that support officers and staff who want to raise legitimate issues or concerns in a lawful and appropriate way.

However, it appears that these processes have not been followed in this case and the investigation is focusing on data protection issues and the unlawful disclosure of confidential information.”

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:53 am 
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I think many people in these austere times will think that the error committed here was that of misusing public office funds and wasting £700 of Tax payers money on such vanity transport when they could have driven themselves or used a Taxi or PH for a fraction of the cost.

No Doubt that £700 will grow into a £100,000 plus through Prosecution costs,Legal aid costs, claims made for unfair dismissal and then out of court settlement costs and job reinstatements, this will rumble on for months.

Makes People wonder just what calibre of officers they have in Cumbria if they treat people like crooks just for revealing what would be made public anyway. People will ask themselves just How did he get this job without so much as even a basic level of commonsense or sense of decency towards his Staff and consider it an act of arrogance.

Between this and that WPC suing a garage over a wee trip it's small wonder people tend no longer to respect the Boys and Girls in blue.


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Cumbria Police and Crime Commissioner Richard Rhodes reveals details over £700 taxi fares saga as crime panel says he caused 'confusion and uncertainty'


UNDER-fire Police and Crime Commissioner Richard Rhodes has given a detailed explanation of the background to a saga which led to calls for his resignation, as Cumbria's crime panel criticised him for causing 'confusion and uncertainty'.

Mr Rhodes, who took office as the Commissioner for Cumbria in November 2012, answered questions put to him by the Cumbria Police and Crime Panel - whose job it is to support and scrutinise his work - over two controversial chauffeur-driven trips which cost the public purse £700.

Last month Mr Rhodes apologised 'unreservedly' to the people of Cumbria for the 'embarrassment' the issued had caused.

There was national anger following the arrests of three people - including two police workers - after Cumbria police received complaints that confidential information about the cost of the journeys had been leaked to the media.

In the answers, which have been made public by the panel, Mr Rhodes said he had been 'uncomfortable' about the cost of the two trips - one to have dinner with the Archbishop of York in a hotel, and the other to the Pheasant Inn at Bassenthwaite, and had been considering repaying the money when the information was published in the media.

"The information would have been published on my website in due course, but not in the timescale ultimately dictated by the media," he said.

"On April 8, 2013, I requested, through the Chief Executive and Chief Finance Officer, that it be deducted from my salary payment.

"This was an entirely personal decision as the arrangements had been made by my office in accordance with normal procurement procedures.

"I should stress that this was an expense that was legitimately incurred. I repaid it not because I was obliged to, but because I wanted to."

He said he now uses a car which was left over from a former police scheme, and which is a better use of public money.

He also reiterated that concerns over the disclosure of the information had been reported from within his own office, but that he has no control over Cumbria police's operational policy, and that it was a matter for the Chief Constable.

In response, the Police and Crime Panel said it had accepted his explanation of events and welcomed the change in travel arrangements, which now provides 'better value for money for local taxpayers'.

"However, much of the confusion and concern around this issue could have been avoided if statements you issued had been clearer and more specific at the time," Chairman Celia Tibble said.

"Indeed you state in your letter that you in fact did not do something that, in previous statements at the time, you said you did. I am sure you will appreciate the uncertainty this has caused.

"In short, it is disappointing that the detail and clarity provided in your letter was not present when events were unfolding.

"Should new information come to light as a result of the ongoing police investigation it would, of course, be necessary for the Panel to look at these issues again, but we accept the responses you have provided at this time as adequately addressing our concerns."


Cumbria Police and Crime Panel's questions and Richard Rhodes' answers in full.

1. When exactly were you made aware of the amounts being spent on chauffer driven vehicles for your use?

After the second use of the vehicle to attend the King’s Own Border Regiment event, after which the exact amount charged became available.

2. When exactly did you make the decision to stop using such vehicles?

As soon as I had details of the actual cost, some time in the week beginning February 11, 2013.

3. Your spokesperson stated that you took the decision to re-pay the costs of these trips, but only after the issue was raised in the press. When exactly did you take that decision and why did you wait until the issue became public knowledge?

As you know the cost of the use of the driven vehicle was published in the press in the week ending April 5, 2013.

The information would have been published on my website in due course, but not in the timescale ultimately dictated by the media.

I had been uncomfortable about the cost that had been incurred from the moment I became aware about it.

I had been considering repaying the cost, but there had been no imperative to make the decision quickly.

Reflecting on the matter over the weekend of April 6/7, I decided to expedite the re-payment of the cost of the journeys.

On April 8, 2013 I requested, through the Chief Executive and Chief Finance Officer, that it be deducted from my salary payment.

This was an entirely personal decision as the arrangements had been made by my office in accordance with normal procurement procedures.

I should stress that this was an expense that was legitimately incurred. I repaid it not because I was obliged to, but because I wanted to.

4. Your office has purchased a vehicle for your use, when was this vehicle purchased, what is its value and when was it delivered?

As I have stated publicly, when I was first elected the possibility of me being allocated a driver was raised.

The rationale for the suggestion was the amount of travelling I would be required to undertake to attend meetings and other engagements throughout the county in my new role.

I rejected the proposal as overly expensive. However, it quickly became apparent that I was undertaking a significant amount of driving and reimbursing me for the use of my own car, even at the Inland Revenue approved rate of 45p per mile, was not the best use of public money.

I inherited from the former Police Authority a provided car scheme for Chief Police Officers. It was put to me that this scheme could be used to provide me with a vehicle for use in my role as Commissioner.

A vehicle was already available having been purchased for use within the scheme but not allocated. It was being stored by the provider.

Once it had been decided to provide me with the vehicle it took several weeks for it to be prepared and delivered. When the vehicle was delivered it had some faults which necessitated it being returned to the dealer for attention.

I record all my journeys in the vehicle and reimburse the cost of my private mileage. This is a taxable benefit.

The purchase price of the vehicle is not disclosable as it was purchased through a Home Office framework agreement.

5. You have stated that you have no influence over operational policing; however your statement said that you raised “concerns” about this issue with constabulary.

- What was the exact nature of these concerns?

- When were they raised and how? Can you supply us with any relevant written correspondence, including emails?

- Who in your office raised the concerns and did they do so with your authority?

The “concerns” were raised with the Constabulary by staff within my Office. The OPCC’s Section 151 Officer had a statutory duty to raise this matter – an apparent unauthorised release of information - with the Constabulary once it had been raised.

As such it was not necessary for me to authorise the raising of concerns, though I was aware that the matter was going to be raised.

The Section 151 Officer would be anxious that the matter was investigated to ascertain whether this was an isolated incident or the result of a system failure.

The matter was raised at a face to face meeting with the Chief Constable and Deputy Chief Constable, which was also attended by the Constabulary’s Chief Finance Officer.

In any event it would have become public knowledge through the newspaper coverage, at which point the matter would have to have been investigated.

There is no correspondence, in any media, on this matter.

6. You have also stated that you have “…asked the Chief Constable to review as a matter of urgency the scale and nature of the investigation.”

Could you clarify how this relates to the earlier part of the same statement where you said you had no powers to influence operational policing? Again please supply us with any written correspondence, including emails, relevant to this request to the Chief Constable.

This is an operational matter and it is therefore a matter for the Chief Constable. I am sure he constantly reviews all operations.

As you rightly say I have no powers to influence operational policing, though I do have overall responsibility for budgetary matters. I have not put this request to the Chief Constable. There is no correspondence in any form on this matter.

7. In your view has the Police response to this matter been proportionate and appropriate?

It would be inappropriate for me to comment on this question.

8. If relevant, can you confirm any actions you intend to take with Cumbria Constabulary in terms of reviewing and resolving this matter?

I do not have any authority to resolve this matter – it is subject to an active criminal investigation and, in addition, the staff involved are under the line management of the Constabulary.

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