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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:02 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
What have the following got in common?

A granny returning from seeing her grandchild for the first time.
A young couple, newly married, returning from honeymoon.
A Bulgarian family, coming to the promised land with new hope for their future.
An eminent scientist, visiting the city to attend a seminar which could help environmental armageddon.
A renowned doctor, presenting a paper at conference which could help end the scourge of cancer.
A top level banker working to redress the economic disaster facing us all.
A politician, returning from representing us at Westminster, or Brussels.
An average Joe with his family, just desperate to get home after a deserved family holiday.

BOOM!

They were all in a queue.

And the queue was long.

And no taxis were available.

And the terrorist knew it would be so.

=D> City of Edinburgh Council.


I assume NHS Lothians are Advocates of Care in the Community and adhere to it's principles of Deinstitutionalisation.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:04 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
Even if it was an unrestricted market, the queue at the airport would've still been there. The fault was with the barrier system? Not lack of cabs. In fact, if it was a free for all, the queue could be worse as more cabs would've been trying to access the rank to look for a fare

You cab despise all you want. I only pity you. You've fought this losing crusade for nearly a decade ( that I know off) and are absolutely no where closer to your objective. All the hours wasted writing on forums and penning letters and emails to councillors, politicians, newspapers and the cab office has got you absolutely nowhere


Booommmmm!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:42 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
Even if it was an unrestricted market, the queue at the airport would've still been there. The fault was with the barrier system? Not lack of cabs. In fact, if it was a free for all, the queue could be worse as more cabs would've been trying to access the rank to look for a fare

You cab despise all you want. I only pity you. You've fought this losing crusade for nearly a decade ( that I know off) and are absolutely no where closer to your objective. All the hours wasted writing on forums and penning letters and emails to councillors, politicians, newspapers and the cab office has got you absolutely nowhere

Hear hear, and his take on the Boston outrage, well beggars belief.

But here's a little thought for you Longshanks and should bring a little light relief for many at this terrible time.

Jasbar always batters on about not enough taxis. Well there is now the entire fleet of Central taxis plying for hire 24/7 in the city, these should help in the survey of unmet demand.......ho, ho!

Jasbar,nae luck ya mong!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:44 pm 
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Fat Boab wrote:

Jasbar,nae luck ya mong!


You do realise use of this term is an offence?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:53 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Look, PH ARE taxis. They say it. The council agrees they are. The customers know they are. And they do the same job as hacks.

So, what's your problem. PH are taxis. End of. get over it.


The CGSA says differently.

Interpretation of sections 10 to 22

23(1) In sections 10 to 22 of this Act:-
“taxi” means a hire car which is engaged, by arrangements made in a public place between the person to be conveyed in it (or a person acting on his behalf) and its driver for a journey beginning there and then; and
“private hire car” means a hire car other than a taxi
within the meaning of this subsection.

(2) In subsection (1) above, “hire car” means a motor vehicle with a driver (other than a vehicle being a public service vehicle within the meaning of section 1(1)(a) of the Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981) which is, with a view to profit, available for hire by the public for personal conveyance.
(3) Notwithstanding that a vehicle in respect of which there is a licence for its operation as a taxi is, on any occasion, engaged as a hire car otherwise than in the manner referred to in subsection (1) above, the enactments relating to its operation as a taxi and to the driving of it as such (including any such enactments in this Act) shall nonetheless apply in relation to it; and that other manner of engagement on that occasion shall not of itself cause the operation or driving of the licensed taxi to be regarded for the purposes of this Act as the operation or driving or a private hire car within the meaning of subsection (1) above.


The legislation is quite clear, a PH is most definitely not a taxi.

Also, I believe a public place is anywhere open to the public, a definition which differs to that used in England & Wales.
Private land or not, it is still a public place.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:08 pm 
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It would seem that only I and the skull do.

Isn't that strange =D>[/quote]

What you care about the airport passengers queuing?

Then get an airport permit and help out!

Jasbar you do realise that everything that's happened to you over the years has been self inflicted.

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As Kaiser mentioned the other night the orange glow in Edinburgh is nothing to alarm it's citizens.

From a selfish point of view it reminds Artur of his homeland.....

But it's also making others reminisce.....

More than one punter has said it reminds them of their nana's fireplace. The reassuring warm orange glow as you enjoyed litres of tea or coffee,sandwiches cut in triangles and enough shortbread to sink the titanic.

So thank you Central North Korean Taxis for making myself and others all warm and fuzzy!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:33 pm 
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For the benefit of those who have little understanding of how a Restrictive Practice operates (Longshanks). It's all about channeling and funneling people into bottlenecks with the intention of slowing their progress upon leaving the transport hub and selling them on to a service provider. They operate the same system to slow the progress of the service provider gaining access to the customer.

There is nothing to stop 50 - 60 customers at the front of the airport concourse being loaded into taxis and going on their way, instead of perhaps one or two at a time. In fact, there is no need to have customers queuing at all. Oh and what is more, you are licensed to provide a service, and you shouldn't have to pay for the privilege.

So when Jim writes BOOOOMMMMM! He is perfectly correct. If there was ever a terrorist attack at Edinburgh Airport, the people being blown to bits, the chances are would be queuing for a taxi.

The fact is, the longer you wait on the concourse, the greater the target you present for the terrorist.


Remember, the terrorist attack at Glasgow Airport? Well don't think it couldn't happen here. :shock: And this time they might get it right. :shock: BOOOOOMMMM! #-o


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:04 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Fat Boab wrote:

Jasbar,nae luck ya mong!


You do realise use of this term is an offence?

Aye sorry, I mean no disrespect or offence to mongos being likened to you.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Terror attack at Glasgow airport and as a result safety measures are brought in, the likes of barriers and blockades, to try and prevent such attacks happening again

So tell me skull, how many taxis do you think are required to prevent the anti terrorist barrier from having a malfunction, this preventing the taxis to pick up the customers?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:42 pm 
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Getting booooring now Kenny.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:51 pm 
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LongshanksED wrote:
Terror attack at Glasgow airport and as a result safety measures are brought in, the likes of barriers and blockades, to try and prevent such attacks happening again

So tell me skull, how many taxis do you think are required to prevent the anti terrorist barrier from having a malfunction, this preventing the taxis to pick up the customers?


Bus to the airport. Approach the queue. Middle of long queue drop ruck sack off shoulder. Queue moves, you leave ruck sack behind. You slip away.

BOOOOMMMMMM!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:58 pm 
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BTW Isn't the same true of taxi ranks in town at peak periods?

Aren't those queueing at them equally vulnerable?

And don't those only exist because of the artificial shortage of taxis created by the council's policy to deny drivers their right to unfettered access to the tools of their trade - to protect vested interests, plate values and high rentals?

BOOOOMMMMMMMM!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:09 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
LongshanksED wrote:
Terror attack at Glasgow airport and as a result safety measures are brought in, the likes of barriers and blockades, to try and prevent such attacks happening again

So tell me skull, how many taxis do you think are required to prevent the anti terrorist barrier from having a malfunction, this preventing the taxis to pick up the customers?


Bus to the airport. Approach the queue. Middle of long queue drop ruck sack off shoulder. Queue moves, you leave ruck sack behind. You slip away.

BOOOOMMMMMM!


Doesn't answer the question of how more taxis can prevent a barrier that prevents acts of terrorism from having a malfunction/glitch?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:33 pm 
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Skull wrote:
For the benefit of those who have little understanding of how a Restrictive Practice operates (Longshanks). It's all about channeling and funneling people into bottlenecks with the intention of slowing their progress upon leaving the transport hub and selling them on to a service provider. They operate the same system to slow the progress of the service provider gaining access to the customer.

There is nothing to stop 50 - 60 customers at the front of the airport concourse being loaded into taxis and going on their way, instead of perhaps one or two at a time. In fact, there is no need to have customers queuing at all. Oh and what is more, you are licensed to provide a service, and you shouldn't have to pay for the privilege.


This is where you should have stopped! You actually for once make a valid point. Beyond this you're back to driving in crazy town.

Bizarre to say the least you link software problems at Edinburgh Airport with a bombing at a Boston marathon.

Lets hope you're in the queue going on your holidays if that ever happens Jazzy!

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