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I see - so the council owns the land?

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George Carlin

No, but no one owns the public, and that's the point.

Many years ago, I picked up a QC, at Edinburgh airport. He walked right out in front of my taxi in full view of the Airport taxi rank, with police present. I stopped, and picked him up. The cops and the airport taxi drivers opened my doors and attempted to remove this gentleman from my taxi. He went berserk. And told them he was not for sale, and that it was his right to choose any licensed taxi he wanted. He then offered the police officers his business card. It was like the parting of the red sea.

Trust me on this, no one should be selling the public on for profit by denying them access to their licensed service provider. And the council knows it.

I think you'll find the right of a land owner is more or less absolute - what the workers decide to do about it, is down to them. That's usually through either action or the democratic process - such as planning consent etc.

That aside - you've had a situation at Edinburgh airport, with PH moving in - your being mischievous!

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Honestly, CC, regardless of the land you own, you don't own the public. And you don't have the right to restrict their access to their licensed service provider. It's a question of reducing the individual in status and selling them on for profit without their knowledge.

The airport and the Clydebank shopping center are robber barons.

You may not own the public - but you own the right to who comes onto your land (including the public who you may exclude) - Edinburgh airport is a case in point - which like virtually every other bit of private land in the country - dictates who can and who cant do business there.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Oh and CC, after I was arrested at the airport. I had a conversation with an Edinburgh Councillor who threatened to suspend my licence. Once I had informed him of my position on the matter, he told me the council could not go to war with the airport because of their legal and political muscle. And that even if they won any legal argument through the courts, they would just move the goal posts, and it would start all over again.

I think you're living in a reality that isn't the same as mine private property is private property

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Yes, but we are talking about people trying to exit the airport, who are being reduced in status to that of cattle, and being sold on to the licensed service provider for a profit.

It's a whole different ballgame to buying a caffe latte from the Starbucks in the main terminal.

The customer is being turned into a commodity to be sold on.

Oh and it may be private property, but the public has the right of way.

So when are you and I going to meet, Mr big balls.

Now you are being silly. It may be private property, but that doesn't mean I can shoot a member of the public because he happens to be on my property after catching a plane. No more than I can reduce his status and sell him on with a price on his head.

Quick run down on the complexities.

Year 2000 Council who own land appoint a rank in the car park.

2001 council agreed 99 yr lease for land with centre owners but retain 20%. Rank never revoked.
Land reform act perhaps makes it a public place regardless of ownership. restriction of trade? Obstructing a public rank?

For over two years the centre manager has blanked all approaches from Trade association to discuss and improve the rank.
So now centre owners agree deal with a company whose are hell bent on monopolising the trade, for exclusive use of rank.
Facilities management company signed up to enforce this. The ones who issue the Mickey Mouse parking tickets that everyone ignores.
And drivers have declared they do have the balls and will go in and pick up. Other disruptive protests possible and police have been consulted. One very narrow public road entrance to car park/rank and bus station!
Truth is like rats in a corner there is no option.

Meantime the local politicians have waded in with full support for the independence of the trade and the right to work the rank.
Unhappy that council officers can't or won't take action, have promised all and any political action will be taken.
Highest level council officers ordered to get round table with Centre owners. Awaiting outcome!

Council may withdraw funding for future developments, make planning applications very difficult, withdraw services. Impose conditions on present and future license applications

Centre management, apparently surprised at the furore, deals like this are commonplace.
Implementation delayed 1week till Wednesday 8th but he ball is presently in their court.

Cabhappy, they are not entitled to give the public access to their shopping center and then restrict their access to leave by parceling them up and selling them on to a service provider of their choosing. You have as much right, to provide a service to the customer as anyone else. You are all licensed to provide the same service.

Seriously CC, does this make any difference in a place thats open to the public. No barriers, no gates or turnstyles.

What law would a sheriff find in favour of an owner who tries to charge some people after the event just for being on the land but not others. No damage caused.
Is there any law which would apply even if an owner were to stand on the land like some feudal lord shouting "get off my land"

We think we can do as skull says but it would be helpful if statements like yours can be backed up.

I can tell you for a fact, that unless the "property owner" has closed a gate on his property, I think it's, three times a year. It's a pubic thoroughfare.

You'll need to check this out, but I'm almost certain it's the case.

Oh and I've been through all this malarkey of finding out what the law is in the past. I've given you a start now run...