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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:51 am 
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Oh and hssc, I don't suppose this happened either?

Oh and Artur, perhaps you could explain how in 2005, Jacob's consultancy carried out a survey in a Gold Rush City, Edinburgh was bursting out at the seams and one of the busiest Cities in Europe at the time, and couldn’t find any demand?
However, in 2009, Halcrow in the middle of an economic meltdown came up with a demand for 30 plates?

These are what I call, inconvenient truths. :-|


#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
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Oh and hssc, your responses to my posts are at best drivel. #-o

Honestly, they are not clever or carefully thought out at all. And I am doing my best not to insult you for what you have written. #-o

To be absolutely truthful, I am not sure what’s going on in your head or what planet you think you are living on at this precise moment. You are so far out of the loop it’s staggering. #-o


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:10 am 
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and you bite every time skull!!!!!

its so easy to wind you and jasbar up. I was bored and thought who can I have fun with? Who would be daft enough to bite????

and guess who did..........
off to bed now asI have another busy week ahead in the raxi trade that some people cant stop whinging about

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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
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Oh and another thing hssc, don't you think I know people working in City Cabs and in particular, CRT, who are absolutely squealing about what they are paying for their rentals, how many jobs they are doing over a shift and how many hours they are having to work to earn a crust?

However, your answer to it all, is that it's not happening. Even ECPH, landing the airport contract in your mind at least, it didn't happen. #-o

Tell me something hssc, do you believe in God because that would explain a lot?


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Skull wrote:
And their you have it, hssc, you are a legend: #-o


Another inane post skull

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If someone challenges the norms of a situation by pointing to the inconvenient truth, you can expect to be attacked by those who don’t want to believe it. The yahboo boys are, for the most part, just kidding themselves on or living in denial of a reality from which they would rather escape.


You are deluded skull you really are. Just because you do not agree with a system DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR VIEW IS CORRECT AND THE SYSTEM IS WRONG #-o Get over yourself skull, you and jasbar are so full of your own self opinionated drivel that you fail to see that few if anybody agrees with your viewpoints. You can come on here and kid yourself all you like that you are somehow putting forward the "inconvenient truth" to those of us that "don't get it" The reality is that it is the likes of YOU and jasbar that don't get it. The world is a different place to what it was 20 years ago when also the taxi trade was different. As far as I know you dont even have a taxi brief now so why dont you allow those of us that do enjoy some friendly inter company banter without your boring self rightous opinionated nonsense which is the biggest reason that people are leaving this forum or finding it the most borin g taxi forum on the net

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So in their minds at least, it’s either not happening or we’ve got it all wrong.



Why do you use the term "we" You are not even a licensed taxi driver so why don't you leave discussion and debate about the taxi trade to those of us who actually are licensed to ply for hire #-o

I wonder if you will do your usual conviluted response with a hint of personal abuse and complex skull logic =D> :D


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
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Oh and hssc, your responses to my posts are at best drivel. #-o


Aye cos your views are so good skull #-o #-o #-o Dont flatter yourself that I even give a flying toss what you think of my views. Remember I AM a licensed taxi driver, you ARE NOT.

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Honestly, they are not clever or carefully thought out at all. And I am doing my best not to insult you for what you have written. #-o


Never suggested they were, if you need any further clarity on my views about your opinions about me, see the post above :D

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To be absolutely truthful, I am not sure what’s going on in your head or what planet you think you are living on at this precise moment. You are so far out of the loop it’s staggering. #-o


The phrase "pots and kettles" springs to mind you silly silly man =D> =D>


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
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Skull wrote:
Oh and hssc, I don't suppose this happened either?

Oh and Artur, perhaps you could explain how in 2005, Jacob's consultancy carried out a survey in a Gold Rush City, Edinburgh was bursting out at the seams and one of the busiest Cities in Europe at the time, and couldn’t find any demand?
However, in 2009, Halcrow in the middle of an economic meltdown came up with a demand for 30 plates?

These are what I call, inconvenient truths. :-|


#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o



How is it an inconvenient truth??? The council pays for a study, does not agree with it and does nothing about it in 2005, then four years later does the same but this time adds 30 plates. That is what councils do they sometimes listen and they sometimes don't. Look at the trams fiasco, the attempts at congestion charging etc etc. Edinburgh City Council has a long and chequered history of not always doing the correct thing. Stop being so wrapped up and paranoid about the taxi trade. You really do need to move on and get a life #-o #-o


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:16 pm 
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On the contrary, our argument concerning restriction or de-restriction not working with Ph expanding to meet demand, and the taxi trade losing its market share to its competitors is a proven fact, because you are living it, the airport contract falling into the hands of ECPH, being a case in point.

I'm not making any of this up. Your trade is fu*ked. How long do you think your average taxi "owner" would last without his driver?

And why should anyone paying in the region of £300 a week to drive a taxi, be denied access to his own vehicle?

Come on now Artur, it's time to wake the fu*k up, don't you think?

Oh and Artur, you only need to look at Job's totals over the last ten or so years to understand where your trade is going. I could do over fifty jobs on a Saturday night and nearly thirty jobs on any week night. Your competition has grown up around your trade, and now you are playing second fiddle to Ph.

And you watch this. It's only a matter of time before they are in the greenways and on your ranks.

And Artur, perhaps you could explain how in 2005, Jacob's consultancy carried out a survey in a Gold Rush City, Edinburgh was bursting out at the seams and one of the busiest Cities in Europe at the time, and couldn’t find any demand?

However, in 2009, Halcrow in the middle of an economic meltdown came up with a demand for 30 plates?

These are what I call, inconvenient truths.


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:24 pm 
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Skull wrote:
On the contrary, our argument concerning restriction or de-restriction not working with Ph expanding to meet demand, and the taxi trade losing its market share to its competitors is a proven fact, because you are living it, the airport contract falling into the hands of ECPH, being a case in point.

I'm not making any of this up. Your trade is fu*ked. How long do you think your average taxi "owner" would last without his driver?

And why should anyone paying in the region of £300 a week to drive a taxi, be denied access to his own vehicle?

Come on now Artur, it's time to wake the fu*k up, don't you think?

Oh and Artur, you only need to look at Job's totals over the last ten or so years to understand where your trade is going. I could do over fifty jobs on a Saturday night and nearly thirty jobs on any week night. Your competition has grown up around your trade, and now you are playing second fiddle to Ph.

And you watch this. It's only a matter of time before they are in the greenways and on your ranks.

And Artur, perhaps you could explain how in 2005, Jacob's consultancy carried out a survey in a Gold Rush City, Edinburgh was bursting out at the seams and one of the busiest Cities in Europe at the time, and couldn’t find any demand?

However, in 2009, Halcrow in the middle of an economic meltdown came up with a demand for 30 plates?

These are what I call, inconvenient truths.



hmmmm

You copy and paste all the points in your previous posts and that is supposed to impress??? #-o #-o #-o #-o

Expect better from you skull :D


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Hssc, it's people like you that drag this forum down with your puerile comments. I even gave you the chance to raise your game, and you blew it. And it's obvious you have no idea what a careful well thought-out response is. It's all childish yahboo stuff where as soon as you write something you start patting yourself on the back and jerking yourself off, thinking you've made a clever point when nothing could be further from the truth.

Oh and it's patently obvious you have not been in the game for twenty-seven years and in all that time, you've been a driver. :-|


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 1:46 pm 
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On the contrary, our argument concerning restriction or de-restriction not working with Ph expanding to meet demand, and the taxi trade losing its market share to its competitors is a proven fact, because you are living it, the airport contract falling into the hands of ECPH, being a case in point.

I'm not making any of this up. Your trade is fu*ked. How long do you think your average taxi "owner" would last without his driver?

And why should anyone paying in the region of £300 a week to drive a taxi, be denied access to his own vehicle?

Come on now Artur, it's time to wake the fu*k up, don't you think?

Oh and Artur, you only need to look at Job's totals over the last ten or so years to understand where your trade is going. I could do over fifty jobs on a Saturday night and nearly thirty jobs on any week night. Your competition has grown up around your trade, and now you are playing second fiddle to Ph.

And you watch this. It's only a matter of time before they are in the greenways and on your ranks.

And Artur, perhaps you could explain how in 2005, Jacob's consultancy carried out a survey in a Gold Rush City, Edinburgh was bursting out at the seams and one of the busiest Cities in Europe at the time, and couldn’t find any demand?

However, in 2009, Halcrow in the middle of an economic meltdown came up with a demand for 30 plates?

These are what I call, inconvenient truths.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:40 pm 
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Taxi chief slams plan to raise late-night fares
Licensing chiefs are consiering a price hike. Picture: Toby Williams
By David O’Leary
Published on 07/05/2013 12:00



LATE-night taxi price hikes have been labelled a “rip-off tariff” by one of the city’s 
leading taxi chiefs.

Les McVay, who represents over 1200 drivers in his role as secretary of firm City Cabs, believes plans to increase fares will lead to increased “friction” between drivers and passengers and “hurt the city’s nighttime economy”.

Contentious plans to increase the city’s baseline fee from £3 for night-time taxis have been touted by licensing chiefs in an effort to encourage more drivers to work past midnight, particularly at weekends.

The new fares – which would come into force between midnight and 5am – follow a lead set by Glasgow City Council where it is understood drivers charge a baseline fee of £4.60.

Now, in a no-nonsense letter to the Evening News, Mr McVay, who is also chair of the Edinburgh Licensed Taxi Partnership, has outlined his fears. He said: “An additional charge on anyone going out at night is not the best way to resolve this.

“Not only would such a charge penalise those who go for a night out, we in the taxi trade believe it would increase friction between drivers and passengers at a time when this is a large part of the problem itself, with many drivers preferring to avoid the possibility of unfortunate incidents that can occasionally happen at this time of night.”

He added: “The trade would more importantly neither wish to put their safety at risk by individuals having to walk home who are unwilling to pay the extra charge.”

Instead Mr McVay feels the solution lies in the voluntary introduction of CCTV cameras to cut down on incidents ranging from disputes over fares to verbal or physical abuse against drivers.

He said: “The introduction of CCTV cameras will help transform the job of a taxi driver at night, providing protection for drivers and customers alike. I hope that the council will dismiss the rip-off tariff, and the damage it could do to the city centre.”

Tony Kenmuir, of rival city firm Central Taxis, said: “I don’t think raising the fares is a bad idea but I think instead of asking taxi drivers, the public should be consulted on whether they would pay an extra £1.50 to get a taxi at 3am.”

The plan to hike late-night prices was outlined in a council consultation document reviewing the structure of taxi fares.

Councillor Angela Blacklock, vice-convener of the regulatory committee and licensing sub-committee, said: “I’m not sure about CCTV as there are other issues mainly to do with privacy. We are seeking to encourage more taxis in the early hours of the morning and in doing so are looking at what has been successful elsewhere and are consulting on a range of ideas.”

david.oleary@edinburghnews.com

Kim Jong Tony is at it again, this time he thinks the general public should be consulted about whether they would pay a 50% rise in the starting fare on weekend nights. So Kim Jong Tony in the week, the council survey says there more than enough taxis to meet demand, wants to tax the punters for being there. Tony, what part of 'this plays right into the hands of the de-restriction camp' do you not understand? Also i am quite sure the marketing department of every PHC company in town are getting their material ready now to hook our ever diminishing customer base away even more. At least a sound argument and alternative is given by City Cabs.

Kim Jong Tony, you are a prize fanny.


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Hssc, it's people like you that drag this forum down with your puerile comments. I even gave you the chance to raise your game, and you blew it. And it's obvious you have no idea what a careful well thought-out response is. It's all childish yahboo stuff where as soon as you write something you start patting yourself on the back and jerking yourself off, thinking you've made a clever point when nothing could be further from the truth.

Oh and it's patently obvious you have not been in the game for twenty-seven years and in all that time, you've been a driver. :-|


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You know what skull you are not even worth bothering with. I know what I know and from your posts on here I know that you THINK you know a lot more not only than I do but everybody else does.
Lets get back to basics ......
Why is a NON LICENSED person so bothered about the trade. You say its full of "f**kwits" (very intelligent grammar from the skull) like me, while why don't you go away and leave it to the "f**kwits" to completely ruin the trade YOU DECIDED TO LEAVE?? this is a theme thats being going on for decades. When I started in 1986, older owners said then the trade was fecked and would be dead within 5 years. Guess what?? Five years later it wasn't, but different people said the same thing, and guess what it wasn't again. No doubt (as you already have said here) the trade will be dead in a few years..... well if history teaches us anything we keep repeating the same mistakes. People in the eighties and nineties were ALL WRONG and so will you be.
The trade will CHANGE but it will not die.
The only constant in the Edinburgh trade are the whingers and moaners who never give up whining, ring any bells skull #-o


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:50 pm 
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yeh bet u one of them has there nose in the trough of some cctv system ready to punt to edinburgh taxi drivers.
where is greenlaugh these days :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: What's the point?
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Oh and it's patently obvious you have not been in the game for twenty-seven years and in all that time, you've been a driver. :-|


Go on then skull using your extensive and expansive use of the English language (without being rude or offensive if you can) show me where it is "patently obvious I have not been in the trade for 27 years" What and how do you base that comment??

Also what is your point about being a driver, are you accusing me of lying and actually being an owner at some point, or are you suggesting there is something wrong with being a driver for 27 years? I know many like me who have enjoyed JUST being a driver =D> =D>


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