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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:24 am 
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This is a Taxi

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This is a Taxi
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This is a 16 seater
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This is neither a taxi nor a 16 seater, its a private hire vehicle

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and this is a general

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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:38 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
The car is a 10 plate octaiva TDI, in this area you get a general plate (taxi) which can be put on a saloon car or hackney carriage (Some plates are limited to be put on hacks) we refer to a HACK as a tx4 or euro bus which is really a purpose built vehicle. a private (PH) can be put on as a saloon car I.E Passat, octavia, Superb. or up to a 16 seater



You dont seem to know that there are only 2 plate types in normal use

1. Hackney (goes on ranks, can take a flag down) some areas demand a WAV, some dont, yours seems not to as I thought you had a "HACKNEY CARRIAGE PLATE" on your 5 door Superb hatchback

2. Private hire (none of the above, prebooked only)

Theres no such thing as a "General" other than in the army

You have 16 seater council plated taxis?...really?...something tells me not


Listen, i have a Private hire car, i previously had a general (Taxi), We dont call "TAXIS" "Hacks", we refer to hacks as purpose built vehicles, so when someone needs a wheelchair car on the radio, the dispatcher will send out the message over the datahead E.G hack needed in Hollytown. the taxis aren't really called generals on the plate it will say E.G taxi NO.65 (my old plate number) but refer to saloon taxi as a "general" the same as you call all taxis down your way "hackney carriages". But we refer to a a PH as a private, so a taxi is a GENERAL and a PH is a PRIVATE that is how all the drivers in this area and dispatchers refer to different taxis, as for the ph having a max of 16 seater that was my mistake it is a max of 8.

here is what a PH plate looks like on my saloon 5 seater superb
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Here is what a Taxi or general as we call it looks like on a 5 seater saloon
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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:44 am 
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So youve hacks and PHV's, the same as most places then

ref you HACK taking a flagdown, he did nothing wrong

if he puts up with the banning more fool him

now then, about your 16 seat taxi's..... :badgrin:

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and here is another taxi plate aswell

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and here is skippys plate too, doesn't say hack on it either as it not a hack, its a saloon taxi

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:59 am 
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I'm sure Gus will confirm - but the description in the Scottish Act is different to the English and Welsh acts.

Hence - in Scotland you have taxis - in E&W we have Hackney Carriages.

10 Taxi and private hire car licences.

(1) A licence, to be known as a “taxi licence” or, as the case may be, a “private hire car licence”, shall be required for the operation of a vehicle as—

(a) a taxi; or

(b) a private hire car.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:25 pm 
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surprised to see taxi and PH plates are the same colour. our taxis have a blue surround whilst PH have yellow. dosn't stop people confusing them, esp. the ph drivers who seagull the town centre of an evening. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 2:21 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
I'm sure Gus will confirm - but the description in the Scottish Act is different to the English and Welsh acts.

Hence - in Scotland you have taxis - in E&W we have Hackney Carriages.

10 Taxi and private hire car licences.

(1) A licence, to be known as a “taxi licence” or, as the case may be, a “private hire car licence”, shall be required for the operation of a vehicle as—

(a) a taxi; or

(b) a private hire car.


That's right. No such thing as a Hackney Carriages in the CGSA 1982, just Taxis and PHC.

United, it's your local descriptions that are confusing everyone. Our southern neighbours have enough trouble understanding the different laws here :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 4:41 pm 
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Today i was speaking to one of the other drivers while sitting in tescos waiting for a hire, he drives a general and was telling me that last night he drove into Asda and someone was waiting outside and flagged him down, the passenger got in and when he dropped her off, the base radioed thorough asking why he picked her up cause he had no hire on his datahead and the driver who had received the hire (a PH) seen him picking her up and complained. As a result of him picking her up he got banned for the rest of the day!, thought this was a bit excessive has since he is a general and she did flag him so he is entitled to pick them up?

What the f*** is a general, in relation to the taxi trade?

I think it's the next one up from a Lieutenant General and four up from a Colonel.

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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:57 pm 
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i spose he had just dropped off at asda he wasnt just crawling along touting for work no no no that just never happens.

Well he is a general so he just drove in to see if any work was there, someone flagged him and she got in, but she had already phoned for one and the ph seen her getting in and reported him


If he's got the company signs on the car the lady might have thought he was for her and was making herself known to him, he didn't know she was booked and was booted off for doing his job in a Hackney.

Sounds like your firm needs a Nuke dropping on it's offices. If I were the driver every job they gave me I'd now show it, I wouldn't even go for the job I'd be at pick up on the rank, POB on the rank and clear on the rank.

Make the vvank office staff and grassing drivers work for their money.


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Nidge2 wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
tangarinearmy wrote:
i spose he had just dropped off at asda he wasnt just crawling along touting for work no no no that just never happens.

Well he is a general so he just drove in to see if any work was there, someone flagged him and she got in, but she had already phoned for one and the ph seen her getting in and reported him


If he's got the company signs on the car the lady might have thought he was for her and was making herself known to him, he didn't know she was booked and was booted off for doing his job in a Hackney.

Sounds like your firm needs a Nuke dropping on it's offices. If I were the driver every job they gave me I'd now show it, I wouldn't even go for the job I'd be at pick up on the rank, POB on the rank and clear on the rank.

Make the vvank office staff and grassing drivers work for their money.

yes he has liveries of the company on the side and his roof sign has the liveries too

i don't really like any cab compan there all rouges really, and every monday mine take over £20,000 in total from the drivers radio money


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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
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i don't really like any cab company there all rouges really, and every monday mine take over £20,000 in total from the drivers radio money


then theres 20% off all account jobs, i bet he has a repair shop and charges for that out of accounts, and does block insurance for owner/drivers and skims that PLUS he has a few cars and minibuses he owns which get the plum jobs and sometimes dont get seen all shift.......

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 Post subject: Re: Who is right?
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United Taxis 11 wrote:
yes he has liveries of the company on the side and his roof sign has the liveries too

i don't really like any cab compan there all rouges really, and every monday mine take over £20,000 in total from the drivers radio money



So he did nothing wrong IMO. I'd be kicking the door down to the office when he pays in.


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Nidge2 wrote:
United Taxis 11 wrote:
yes he has liveries of the company on the side and his roof sign has the liveries too

i don't really like any cab compan there all rouges really, and every monday mine take over £20,000 in total from the drivers radio money



So he did nothing wrong IMO. I'd be kicking the door down to the office when he pays in.

Me too bit over the top i think anyways, and he is entitled to pick up where ever when ever either through radio hires of rank/flagging

here is a general and a private sitting side by side, i don't like the fact the PH's in this area don't get any stickers or plates on the front of our cars, as my only id that i am a ph is a rear ph plate rear window sticker and a radio arial, all of those are at the back of the car so sometimes when you pick of from some places some people don't know that you are the car the taxi they phoned for

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