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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:38 pm 
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5,700 SHORTFALL IN LICENSED CABBIES IN LONDON - LIB DEMS

New figures revealed today by the London Assembly Liberal Democrats show that London is facing a shortage of more than 5,500 licensed cabbies leading to concerns that passengers may turn to illegal minicabs to get home at night.

The figures, taken from Transport for London Board papers, show that there was a 1,200 shortfall in the number of licensed taxi drivers Transport for London believed were needed for this year. There was also a 4,500 shortfall in the number of private hire drivers licensed leading to an overall shortage of taxi drivers in the capital of 5,700.

TfL points to ‘significant problems with the quality of application and Criminal Records Bureau forms completed by the applicants and the medical forms completed by GPs’, as the reason for the lack of the extra licensed cabbies.

London Assembly Transport Spokesperson, Graham Tope, said:-

“While the number of cabbies is increasing, it appears that the increase is falling well short of the number needed to meet demand.

“I am seriously concerned that the shortage of licensed cabbies could lead to more people using unlicensed minicabs because they are the cheapest and easiest form of transport to get home on a late night.

“It is time the Mayor raised their game in helping to get more cabbies registered and licensed before all the good work by Transport for London with their ‘Safer Travel at Night’ scheme is undone.”


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In Transport for London Board Papers discussed on Wednesday 18th May 2005, Agenda Item 5, Page 8, Paragraph 3.27, it states:



I challenged them on the above by way of a letter to Lynne Featherstone MP, promptly relied I may add.


Dear Mr (GBC!),
Thank you for your e-mail regarding Lynne's comments on the radio about the shortfall of taxi drivers. I enclose the press release around which these comments were based. It is not the Liberal Democrats that are saying that there is a shortfall of private hire or black cab drivers, but Transport for London. According to the latest Transport for London Board Papers from the 18th May 2005, they missed their target for recruiting new drivers in both sectors. They had apparently set a target for this year which they were 1,200 black cabbies short of achieving and around 4,500 private hire cabbies short. As Liberal Democrats we are highlighting these figures rather than reaching this conclusion ourselves.

We are currently pursuing the Mayor and Transport for London to understand the following extra information:-
1- how did the target get set, who set it and why?
2- who was consulted - were the LTDA included in any conversations on the matter?
3 - what evidence does the Mayor and Transport foe London have to say that there are not enough taxi drivers (whether black can or private hire)?

Once we have the following information from both Transport for London and Ken Livingstone then we will be able to put forward more concrete explanations as to what the logic is behind these assertions. <<cabbieshortage.doc>> Apart from the paragraph that you will see at the very bottom of the press release that comes from Transport for London Board papers - there is no other reference we can find that points to why Transport for London and the Mayor are saying that there is such a shortfall.

We will continue investigating this, and if you would like, I will keep you informed of what we find out.

We have been in touch with the LTDA and we will shortly be in touch with the London Cab Drivers Club to discuss this further.

Kind regards



So there you have it, how rumours start, they were refering to in the main about licensed minicab drivers, not licensed Taxi drivers.


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 5:29 pm 
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:So there you have it, how rumours start, they were refering to in the main about licensed minicab drivers, not licensed Taxi drivers.


What do you mean by rumours - that was the same figures as were posted on here last week, which clearly stated that the shortfall was mainly regarding taxi drivers.

And why do you say that she promptly replied to your email when last week you seemed to be bemoaning the fact that you hadn't received a reply?

But it's interesting that the LibDem press release seemed to be agreeing with TfL, whereas now Lynn Featherstone seems to be taking a more sceptical view of the figures.

As I queried last week, it would be interesting to know how the quantify these things.

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What do you mean by rumours - that was the same figures as were posted on here last week, which clearly stated that the shortfall was mainly regarding taxi drivers.

And why do you say that she promptly replied to your email when last week you seemed to be bemoaning the fact that you hadn't received a reply?



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The prompt reply was sent to my Yahoo address, which I forgot to check. :oops:


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Remind me (in less than 400 words)

No chance. :roll:

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
Remind me (in less than 400 words)

No chance. :roll:


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greenbadgecabby wrote:
TDO wrote:
What do you mean by rumours - that was the same figures as were posted on here last week, which clearly stated that the shortfall was mainly regarding taxi drivers.

And why do you say that she promptly replied to your email when last week you seemed to be bemoaning the fact that you hadn't received a reply?



Remind me (in less than 400 words)

The prompt reply was sent to my Yahoo address, which I forgot to check. :oops:


Well I would have replied in no words at all (ie your words only) but at least two words were necessary to demonstrate that they were your words and not mine, but in pointing this out it has clearly taken me several dozen words where only two of mine and several dozen of yours would have done, so you only have yourself to blame for this :wink: :lol:


You said:

I e-mailed a lengthy letter to our new Hornsey MP, Lynne Featherstone last week asking her about what research she had undertaken before shouting her mouth off on local television about the need for more Taxi's to help clog the streets of London.

I still await a reply.

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Ok, well i've answered that!

Better still its the headline feature on this months LTDA 'TAXI' paper, i'll post the link when they put it online, i'll give her one thing though, for an MP, she's crumpet. :lol:


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That's not saying much!

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
Ok, well i've answered that!

Better still its the headline feature on this months LTDA 'TAXI' paper, i'll post the link when they put it online, i'll give her one thing though, for an MP, she's crumpet. :lol:


That's not you in the background GBC is it? :lol:

http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/photos/bin.jpg


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Still it's in the eye of the beholder. :wink:


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Sirius wrote:
greenbadgecabby wrote:
Ok, well i've answered that!

Better still its the headline feature on this months LTDA 'TAXI' paper, i'll post the link when they put it online, i'll give her one thing though, for an MP, she's crumpet. :lol:


That's not you in the background GBC is it? :lol:

http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/photos/bin.jpg


Yes, maybe GBC is Lynne Featherstone's stalker :lol:

Mind you, she does seem to like bins, so I think I may be in there :D

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Sirius wrote:
That's not you in the background GBC is it? :lol:

http://www.lynnefeatherstone.org/photos/bin.jpg


Yikes :shock: might be me! Thats Park Road N8, which, by coincidence, is one of my routes home, though usually at 3 AM.

Anyway heres this months 'Taxi' paper headline, me thinks she will not be too pleased, still perhaps she will research the subject better next time? :roll:

http://www.ltda.co.uk/taxi/issue_94/pg01.htm


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I'm not really sure how she's erred in her research, since she was basically just parotting what was in the report to the board.

On page three of the mag the columnist says that she didn't differentiate between taxis and PH, but the press release at the top of the thread does.

Thus I'm confused :?

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