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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:28 pm 
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Committee men running a multi-hundred pound company :lol:.

Any of them been to University, business school, or even have an arithmetic o level? Yet they are allowed by the sheeple members to run the business.

And they pay themselves at a rate you would expect a highly qualified employee to enjoy. What is it now? £35 K a pop? And a handsome 20 bucks an hour expense rate, or disciplinary court rate, or for swanning around the airport playing the big time charlie taxi magnate?

A Company Secretary who has, what qualification exactly? He's also been to further education to learn the skills a multi-hundred pound company would require to be successful? :badgrin:

And the "marketing" guru. How much education does this exalted position require? A degree in marketing, perhaps? A diploma, even? And HNC? Or even a school higher? (Or a connected sponsor?)

Office manager?

Wanna bet none of this qualification requirement applies here?

The list goes on. Amateurs finding themselves, care of the proxy vote system, self preserving, and dreaming up schemes paid for by the toil and sweat off the backs of the drivers. The workers who always pay for everything dreamed up for them.

An amateur trade. Amateur companies. Run by amateurs.

And this benefits customers, how exactly?

=D>

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Than ever before,
You driver whhore,
Locks to the fore.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:21 pm 
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Did somebody say something?

Everytime I see a Jasbar post, it reminds me of Charlie Brown listening to his teacher


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:22 pm 
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you really need help jasbar
silly silly man.....


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:34 pm 
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hssc wrote:
you really need help jasbar
silly silly man.....


I guess it tugged your and the cretin Long ... heart then :lol:

You guys really are just ridiculous.

The fact you took a swipe at me rather than attempt to refute the common sense of the statements shows just how desperate you guys are.

Of course, you are "businessmen" after all, aren't you?

:lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:55 pm 
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Jizzy Jizzy Jizzy. A tale of self inflicted woe if ever there was one. Firstly:- everyone on this planet decides what they want to do and how their going to do it. Some go out and grab the bulls by the horns and make things happen! Others either can't be bothered or choose to do things differently. You Jizzy have the choice of how you want to work, you have chosen to fight against everyone and everything in your path, this only leads to one thing, a sorry very unhappy existence.
Secondly:- I think you will find that a co-operative has been run the same way for many many years, the committee men at the moment are doing nothing different to what has went on before. The guys running City Cabs at the moment may not have degrees or HNC's or highers etc, but they do have the one qualification that matters most:- that's the qualification of life's experiences.
So before you come back with your next tirade, answer this question. You currently slaughter the current committee, could you do the job any better?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:53 pm 
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sorry did I read correctly.... you claim thst post contained common sense????
Dream on jasbar the day you post anything on here containing common sense will never happen.
Why????
Cos you are just a sad silly silly man.....


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:22 pm 
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From now on why don't we all just ignore him??? Starve his oxygen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:53 pm 
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agreed =D>


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:59 pm 
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Everything Jasbar wrote at the start of this thread is exactly right. :-|

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:20 am 
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hssc wrote:
agreed =D>


I with you Artur and HSSC.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:21 am 
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Skull wrote:
Everything Jasbar wrote at the start of this thread is exactly right. :-|


Stop drivelling a lot of nonsense My Miyaggi!!!

Wankon Wankoff Wankon Wankoff

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:41 pm 
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Kaiser Soze wrote:
Secondly:- I think you will find that a co-operative has been run the same way for many many years, the committee men at the moment are doing nothing different to what has went on before. The guys running City Cabs at the moment may not have degrees or HNC's or highers etc, but they do have the one qualification that matters most:- that's the qualification of life's experiences.
So before you come back with your next tirade, answer this question. You currently slaughter the current committee, could you do the job any better?


First, the committee men are doing nothing different to what has went (sic) before.

Precisely my point. The committee structure was relevant when a few taxis hung about the foot of the walk taxi rank, smoking their fags, talking shecht as usual, and waiting for the single telephone to assign them their next job.

But the whole dynamic has changed. The trade expanded exponentially, yet the business model is mired in the past. It's had its day. Co-operatives like this are no longer relevant in the taxi trade model or the commercial world generally.

Multi million pound businesses need qualified businessmen to run them in order that they reach their full potential. The taxi companies in Edinburgh don't have that. The big PH company doesn't have it either. The time has long passed for amateurs to run these businesses. If the owners want them to be successful and reach their full potential that is.

ECPH is a case in point. Whereas a qualified business expert would have a real marketing strategy, what currently exists is written on the back of a fag packet and changes daily. And when all else fails, the quick resort to price reduction is the order of the day. Yet every price reduction might buy a slightly increased market share, but it doesn't grow the market, and it ends up reducing profits. And when that happens the drivers are stiffed again. The company dips into their pockets to fund the mistakes. The drivers always pay.

The same happens in the co-operatives, hence buying work like Social Work, RBS, etc. Drivers don't really want the discounted work, they're hoping someone else will be allocated it while they do the more lucrative general public work. And they gripe when it does come their way, unless it involves a longer job which may help to defray some of the discounting loss.

Fact is, you're right in respect that nothing's changed in the way co-operatives operate, but the change in the whole dynamic demonstrates how the companies are being held back by an inability to evolve into a modern dynamic enterprise with efficient company structures manned by skilled staff. And it would take real commercial skills to take the companies down that route. The amateurs who effectively "own" the companies, because proxy votes from pals keep the clique in power, have neither the wit nor intelligence to lead the companies there.

Second, just reading the above should lead you to understand I likely could do the job better. As could a few others. Thing is, I wouldn't want to. And it comes back again to the important thing being the company, not the ego of individuals.

If I WERE in the position to try, the first task would need to be a root and branch organisational review by professional experts, like KPMG perhaps. And that would lead to me being removed for the very reasons I've outlined. And that would likely be the limit of my success - a true facillitator who put the needs of the business first.

BTW Kaiser. I think you're Kevin Woodburn.

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