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hang on...

a county council want escorts to have a badge, so they do the CRB but charge the taxi owner...

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They (the escorts) can charge who they like, but the escorts must register themselves.

Think it's £44 and £13 a year to stay on the register, which will stop you needing to pay the £44 ever again

I believe all this info can be viewed on the internet.

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IDFIMH

i know, im looking at it now..

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So am I and I'm still confused..

1) I have a current CRB that does'nt expire for another 18 months (council, every 3 years), do I need to get a DBS now or in 18 months when the CRB runs out ?
2) The new DBS is a one-off application unless your circumstances change (right ??) so do I need to subscribe to the update service ?
3) If I don't subscribe to the update service, and I make no changes to the DBS form, will the council still be able to check my status every year ?

If I've got it right you pay a one-off fee of £44 for the DBS, this lasts for life unless you make any changes to the form. If you don't use the update service you need to make another new application costing £44, if you subscribe it's £13. I'm not sure whether it's worth subscribing or not.

1. You only need to get a DBS when your council requests you do.

2. I think you, and everyone else, have two options. One is to pay the £44 initial fee and then £13 a year to stay registered on-line for people to check. That way the council should never need to see another print out from you as they will be able to go on-line and see that your report has had no amendments i.e. crimes added. The second is to pay the £44 every three years. But that way you will also need to pay the £44 every time you need a new check for other organisations. With the on-line lark you can just show your original check and the on-line stuff that shows no change.

3. Not as far as I'm aware.

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IDFIMH

I thought the £44 was a one-off fee that lasts a lifetime unless you move organisations or have to make an amendment ?

My LA is saying all they need is the reference number from the check so that they can look online, is this only valid for one year unless you subscribe ?

They haven't asked for a DBS yet but are saying 'from the middle of June we will no longer receive a criminal records certificate, you must therefore produce the new DBS certificate as soon as possible or your licence may be suspended'. So is my current CRB valid until expiry or do I need to get a DBS in June - I guess that's a question for my LA.

Not my understanding. I think that's to get a check done, and then you need to stay registered for £13 a year or in three years time your council will ask for another £44 check as they can't check on-line to see if anything has changed.

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IDFIMH

Disclosure and Barring Service

A simple guide for passenger transport contractors

This guide aims to explain the function of the Disclosure and Barring Service and to try to make it easier for drivers and transport escorts to complete the disclosure application form more easily.

Background;

The Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) combines the previous functions of the Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) and the Independent Safeguarding Authority (ISA), the latter being the organisation that determines which people should be barred from working with children and/or vulnerable people and maintains a register of those people. The DBS disclosure process is designed to enable employers to make an informed judgement as to whether the information disclosed on the applicant’s certificate makes them unsuitable for employment in a role where the person has specific responsibilities for the welfare of children and the vulnerable. In the case of disclosure applications processed through the County Council the Council would consider if the content of the disclosure suggested the applicant was unsuitable to work on passenger transport contracts for children and vulnerable people that the Council arranged. At the same time as the Council received what was known as the ‘registered body’ copy of the disclosure the applicant received their own copy.

Since the 17th June 2013 disclosure certificates are issued only to the applicant. Unfortunately this change makes the administration of the Council’s driver and escort registration scheme more complicated but it is hoped that following the steps below will minimise the impact of this change – which followed a change in the law associated with Human Rights legislation.

From the same date – and after a new disclosure certificate has been issued – applicants will have the opportunity to subscribe to the DBS update service for a current annual subscription of £13. The benefit of this being that anyone with an entitlement who has been given the permission of the applicant may check with DBS that the contents of the disclosure certificate in relation to offending history of the person have not changed. In theory this could mean that the applicant might never be required to undergo another DBS disclosure check (provided there were no changes in offending history or ‘status’).

New Process;

1. Completion of application form

Line 55 The question ‘have you ever been convicted of a criminal offence or received a caution reprimand or warning?’ does now actually additionally mean that has not been spent. Thus there is no requirement to indicate yes to this question if any convictions etc. that you have are spent.

Line 61 (Position applied for) please leave this blank as the DBS are now treating this line to mean the type of workforce the applicant is in from the choices of; Child Workforce, Adult Workforce, Child and Adult Workforce, or Other Workforce.

Lines 1 to 57 should be completed by the applicant.

Lines 58 to 62 should be completed by the person checking the evidence of identity of the applicant.

Lines 63 to 73 will be completed by the County Council as the registered body.

2. New application forms

DBS have said that disclosure application forms will be updated as soon as possible.

What to do with the returned disclosure certificate

As described above only the applicant will now receive a copy of their disclosure certificate. To enable the Council to verify that they are suitable to work on passenger transport contracts a copy of that certificate will have to be provided to the Quality team, Sustainable Travel Group of the Council which will then enable a driver or escort ID badge to be issued. A failure to provide a copy of the disclosure certificate will be considered to render a person unsuitable to work on Council passenger transport contracts.

Applicants receiving their disclosure certificates are expected to be invited by DBS to subscribe to the ‘Update Service’ as described above. It is recommended that applicants are encouraged to do this as this represents a monetary saving over a fresh disclosure every 3 years and a substantial time saving in terms of removing the need for further disclosure application form filling etc. Where applicants do subscribe to the update service it is required that they indicate their consent to the Council carrying out a ‘status check’ on them at any time that they continue to either work or are available to work on Council passenger transport contracts. If an applicant wishes to withdraw their consent for the Council to check their ‘status’ with DBS they may do so at any time (in writing) – but this will mean that they must not work on Council passenger transport contracts.

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what they dont say is WHO they want to have a DBS check, escorts only or drivers too? (drivers would have had one to get a badge)

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The £13 a year registration allows the council to see if there are any amendments.

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IDFIMH

You last CRB was out of date as soon as it was posted to you, however your council doesn't require (I guess) a new one for three years since the last one was presented.

So in your council eyes only it's still current.

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IDFIMH

Anyone who has regular contact with children and vulnerable adults.

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IDFIMH

so if i have a DBS (£44?) and pay £13 a year I need never pay the £44 ever again?....

i dont think thats gonna last

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meanwhile a police report is £10 and faster

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And worthless.

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Grandad,