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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:25 am 
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Following on from ym court appeal (see legal section), at the last taxi forum I proposed an increase in maximum vehicle age to "no age limit if the vehicle is in excellent condition". This was carried by the meeting then put out for a vote of all operators. the result was reported to be 63% returned ballot papers, 57% No, 43% yes, so the proposal was not carried.

However, at this week's meeting, a further proposal to increase the maximum age by 6 months. What help! The licencing manager was not impressed having just wasted staff time and our money on the last vote! As I said at the meeting, that all depends on the outcome of my court appeal next week anyway.

Talking to one of the ph drivers outside after the meeting, he reckons the vote was "hijacked" by the 3 big cab operators in the area. We have about 250 hacks and 38 ph. The hack barons don't want older cars as they'd lose their revenue as drivers find it cheaper to buy a car rather than keep paying weekly rental.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:44 am 
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how about customer though is it fair to ride a shed an ask for top dollar or do they deserve better

we all know about old good condition car an it never is it tarted up wreck most time


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:31 pm 
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Tico wrote:
how about customer though is it fair to ride a shed an ask for top dollar or do they deserve better

we all know about old good condition car an it never is it tarted up wreck most time

I admit there may be one or two tarted up wrecks out there, most are a damn sight newer than my Voyager which is still in immaculate condition, hence my battle! The public might "want" to travel in new cars but rarely will they pay new car prices for that privilege!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:42 pm 
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i think a good age limit is 6 or 7, allot taxis get a hard life, i was driving back home yesterday on the inside lane coming back from getting the car serviced and this Glasgow Ph octavia rocketed up the outside lane doing 90-100 id say. some drivers have no respect for their cars, i like to keep mine serviced + maintained and clean inside and out. plus i have a 62 plate so so one should be complaining of it being an old banger


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:54 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
The hack barons don't want older cars as they'd lose their revenue as drivers find it cheaper to buy a car rather than keep paying weekly rental.

Indeed. :sad:

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:17 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
roythebus wrote:
The hack barons don't want older cars as they'd lose their revenue as drivers find it cheaper to buy a car rather than keep paying weekly rental.

Indeed. :sad:


£185 a week in Tamworth for a tatty old E7 Mk1, and the owner has 5 out on rent, the driver cant afford £20K for a WAV


(thats £48K a year)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:12 am 
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£185 a week rental? Sheeit, it's cheaper to lease a new car, under £100 a week.

In this part of the world there just isn't the work to justify or afford a new car. It's only the big cab barons in Folkestone who are against the increase.


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roythebus wrote:
£185 a week rental? Sheeit, it's cheaper to lease a new car, under £100 a week.

In this part of the world there just isn't the work to justify or afford a new car. It's only the big cab barons in Folkestone who are against the increase.


but that includes car, insurance, badge, road tax, plate and its WAV's only for hacks

the meter rate is quite high tho

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roythebus wrote:
£185 a week rental? Sheeit, it's cheaper to lease a new car, under £100 a week.

The problem is that a significant number of drivers can't get pass the credit checks.

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Sussex wrote:
roythebus wrote:
£185 a week rental? Sheeit, it's cheaper to lease a new car, under £100 a week.

The problem is that a significant number of drivers can't get pass the credit checks.



or want to get in too deep

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:47 pm 
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You guys have got to get the message across that it is NOT the age of the vehicle that is the problem.

Going over old ground..........example 1. 2 drivers between them buy a vehicle and decide to run it 10 hours per day each 24/7, clocking up between them say 75.000 miles per annum, over 10 years, stating the obvious 750.000 miles. Ex 2. A driver buys the same type of vehicle, works 5 days a week @ 8 hours per day probably clocking up depending where you are 20.000 miles per annum, over 10 years = 200.000 miles.

Somebody please tell me............how does the age for ALL come into it?

The above examples are obviously not accurate as such, but surely you can see the point. To my way of thinking the policy is seriously flawed, and demonstrates that the people concerned do not have a clue of what they are doing.

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cabby john wrote:
You guys have got to get the message across that it is NOT the age of the vehicle that is the problem.

Going over old ground..........example 1. 2 drivers between them buy a vehicle and decide to run it 10 hours per day each 24/7, clocking up between them say 75.000 miles per annum, over 10 years, stating the obvious 750.000 miles. Ex 2. A driver buys the same type of vehicle, works 5 days a week @ 8 hours per day probably clocking up depending where you are 20.000 miles per annum, over 10 years = 200.000 miles.

Somebody please tell me............how does the age for ALL come into it?

The above examples are obviously not accurate as such, but surely you can see the point. To my way of thinking the policy is seriously flawed, and demonstrates that the people concerned do not have a clue of what they are doing.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:07 pm 
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Im not bothered now cos with "age exemption" (4 month plates) subject to condition, and no mileage maximum i can (if i wish) run the car till the worlds oil supplies run out

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