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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:12 pm 
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Labour in row with Tesco and Next over foreign workers

Stores reject suggestion from shadow immigration minister that they have favoured eastern European recruits over Britons

Labour has become embroiled in a row with the supermarket chain Tesco and clothing retailer Next over the recruitment of cheap eastern European workers at the expense of British staff.

Chris Bryant, the shadow immigration minister, said the party had received claims from employees that both firms were "unscrupulous employers" which had recently favoured foreign workers over Britons. But his words prompted both companies to accuse Labour of getting basic facts wrong.

The row came as figures from the House of Commons Library showed that British workers have suffered some of the sharpest wage falls in the European Union.

Bryant's intervention follows a decision by Labour to take on the Tories and Ukip over immigration and employment. Senior party figures are concerned that it could lose ground among traditional supporters who believe their jobs and terms and conditions are under threat.

In the text of a speech due to be delivered on Monday but leaked over the weekend, Bryant said: "It is unfair that unscrupulous employers whose only interest seems to be finding labour as cheaply as possible will recruit workers in large numbers in low-wage countries in the EU.

"Take the case of Tesco … they recently decided to move a distribution centre in the south-east. The new centre is larger and employs more people. But it has been alleged that the staff at the original site were told that they could only move to the new centre if they took a cut in pay. The result? A bigger percentage of the staff at the new centre are from Eastern bloc countries."

Tesco said it had recruited 350 local people to work in its distribution centre in Dagenham, not in Kent as originally alleged by Bryant. A spokesman said: "It is wrong to accuse Tesco of this. We work incredibly hard to recruit from the local area, and have just recruited 350 local people to work in our Dagenham site."

However, Bryant's claims against Tesco were partially backed by Robert Halfon, the Conservative MP for Harlow, who said that the retail giant had behaved "disgracefully" towards some of his constituents.

"They said they were building a new Dagenham plant and the Harlow plant in my own constituency would be alongside it.

"The moment the plant was built it was suddenly announced the Harlow plant would close. They then said to the British Harlow workers, yes, they could have jobs in Dagenham, but it would be at lower pay after transitional costs had been taken in."

In the text Bryant also outlines allegations that Next brought 500 Polish workers to work at its warehouse in South Elmsall, West Yorkshire, for its summer sale and another 300 this summer.

A spokesman for Next said the firm had been forced to look abroad for workers, not to save money, but because it had been unable to recruit temporary workers in Britain. "Mr Bryant also makes the false claim that the use of Polish workers enables Next to avoid agency working regulations. For clarity, the nationality of workers in no way affects their rights under agency workers regulations, a fact Mr Bryant should be aware of.

"We very much hope that Mr Bryant, being appraised of the facts, will reconsider his claims when he comes to make his speech," a Next spokesman said.

According to the Commons library figures on pay, a 5.5% reduction in average hourly wages since mid-2010, adjusted for inflation, means British workers have suffered a greater cut than those in countries hit by the eurozone crisis. Wages dropped by 3.3% in Spain over the same period and by 3% in Cyprus.

Only Greek, Portuguese and Dutch wages suffered a steeper decline than the UK, the analysis showed, while they rose by 2.7% in Germany and 0.4% in France.

A separate analysis by the TUC showed that in the two years to December 2012 the number of temporary workers in the UK increased by 89,000 to 1,650,000 – 46% of the total rise in employment. At the same time, ever more were employed on a casual basis, with 19,000 fewer on fixed-term contracts.

"The fact that casualised labour continues to grow even during this 'so-called' recovery suggests that the labour market is far more fragile than headline figures suggest," said Frances O'Grady, the TUC's general secretary.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... gn-workers

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So what are Labour trying to do here? Close the door they opened in the first place?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:36 pm 
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So what are Labour trying to do here? Close the door they opened in the first place?

It would appear so. :sad:

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Labour in row with Tesco and Next over foreign workers

Stores reject suggestion from shadow immigration minister that they have favoured eastern European recruits over Britons

Labour has become embroiled in a row with the supermarket chain Tesco and clothing retailer Next over the recruitment of cheap eastern European workers at the expense of British staff.

Chris Bryant, the shadow immigration minister, said the party had received claims from employees that both firms were "unscrupulous employers" which had recently favoured foreign workers over Britons. But his words prompted both companies to accuse Labour of getting basic facts wrong.

The row came as figures from the House of Commons Library showed that British workers have suffered some of the sharpest wage falls in the European Union.

Bryant's intervention follows a decision by Labour to take on the Tories and Ukip over immigration and employment. Senior party figures are concerned that it could lose ground among traditional supporters who believe their jobs and terms and conditions are under threat.

In the text of a speech due to be delivered on Monday but leaked over the weekend, Bryant said: "It is unfair that unscrupulous employers whose only interest seems to be finding labour as cheaply as possible will recruit workers in large numbers in low-wage countries in the EU.

"Take the case of Tesco … they recently decided to move a distribution centre in the south-east. The new centre is larger and employs more people. But it has been alleged that the staff at the original site were told that they could only move to the new centre if they took a cut in pay. The result? A bigger percentage of the staff at the new centre are from Eastern bloc countries."

Tesco said it had recruited 350 local people to work in its distribution centre in Dagenham, not in Kent as originally alleged by Bryant. A spokesman said: "It is wrong to accuse Tesco of this. We work incredibly hard to recruit from the local area, and have just recruited 350 local people to work in our Dagenham site."

However, Bryant's claims against Tesco were partially backed by Robert Halfon, the Conservative MP for Harlow, who said that the retail giant had behaved "disgracefully" towards some of his constituents.

"They said they were building a new Dagenham plant and the Harlow plant in my own constituency would be alongside it.

"The moment the plant was built it was suddenly announced the Harlow plant would close. They then said to the British Harlow workers, yes, they could have jobs in Dagenham, but it would be at lower pay after transitional costs had been taken in."

In the text Bryant also outlines allegations that Next brought 500 Polish workers to work at its warehouse in South Elmsall, West Yorkshire, for its summer sale and another 300 this summer.

A spokesman for Next said the firm had been forced to look abroad for workers, not to save money, but because it had been unable to recruit temporary workers in Britain. "Mr Bryant also makes the false claim that the use of Polish workers enables Next to avoid agency working regulations. For clarity, the nationality of workers in no way affects their rights under agency workers regulations, a fact Mr Bryant should be aware of.

"We very much hope that Mr Bryant, being appraised of the facts, will reconsider his claims when he comes to make his speech," a Next spokesman said.

According to the Commons library figures on pay, a 5.5% reduction in average hourly wages since mid-2010, adjusted for inflation, means British workers have suffered a greater cut than those in countries hit by the eurozone crisis. Wages dropped by 3.3% in Spain over the same period and by 3% in Cyprus.

Only Greek, Portuguese and Dutch wages suffered a steeper decline than the UK, the analysis showed, while they rose by 2.7% in Germany and 0.4% in France.

A separate analysis by the TUC showed that in the two years to December 2012 the number of temporary workers in the UK increased by 89,000 to 1,650,000 – 46% of the total rise in employment. At the same time, ever more were employed on a casual basis, with 19,000 fewer on fixed-term contracts.

"The fact that casualised labour continues to grow even during this 'so-called' recovery suggests that the labour market is far more fragile than headline figures suggest," said Frances O'Grady, the TUC's general secretary.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... gn-workers



There's a massive Co Op distribution centre opened round here and 70% of people taken on are foreign nationals. The locals didn't get a look in.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:21 pm 
Great this inverted racism against UK workers is finally recognised....pity they do not have the backbone to enforce it


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Unfortunately without evidence it's all hearsay and speculation. I guess the tax office must know how many and the nationality of the employees but I also figure they'll tell you they don't keep that sort of information :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:39 am 
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Great this inverted racism against UK workers is finally recognised....pity they do not have the backbone to enforce it



Correct Gobby, you've only got to look at Sports World who have a massive DC round here, they're employing foreign nationals and some UK staff on zero hours, some people I've spoken to who used to work there say it's hideous and so regimental it's unreal.

When they've finished their shift it's taking them 45 minutes to get through security because they're frisked by the security staff, this came about after thousands of pounds worth of stock was going missing, they found out who it was and made an example of them by sacking them and getting rid of the agency.


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For the migrants willing to travel thousands of miles to actually work, shame on those laybout brits who dont want a job

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For the migrants willing to travel thousands of miles to actually work, shame on those laybout brits who dont want a job



I agree somewhat, if the government got rid of this stupid Child Tax Credit for people on the rock and roll maybe we wouldn't need this open door policy.

If your not working and have 4 kids you'll get £229 a week just for the children in Child Tax Credits, add Income Support, Child Benefit, Housing Benefit, free Council Tax, free prescriptions, free school meals and you've got the thick end of £500-£600 per week for doing nothing.

Take away the money for babies culture and make them work for a living, if you can't afford children don't expect the state to pick up the tab, put something on the end of it or take the pill.

I'm all for Working Tax Credits for people who work and have children and who are on the breadline but I hate this babies for money culture that is sweeping the UK at the moment.

Young bone idle girls won't work because they get paid for laying on their backs as a breeding machine then the Government picks up the tab.


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All we need is for a government to treat the workers better than those that don't.

I don't want anyone starving or living on the streets, but I can't have lazy f***ers.

And we all know plenty of them.

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All we need is for a government to treat the workers better than those that don't.

I don't want anyone starving or living on the streets, but I can't have lazy f***ers.

And we all know plenty of them.



They won't starve on the streets because they're getting more money than me for working 70 hours a week.


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All we need is for a government to treat the workers better than those that don't.

I don't want anyone starving or living on the streets, but I can't have lazy f***ers.

And we all know plenty of them.


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Sussex wrote:
All we need is for a government to treat the workers better than those that don't.

I don't want anyone starving or living on the streets, but I can't have lazy f***ers.

And we all know plenty of them.



They won't starve on the streets because they're getting more money than me for working 70 hours a week.


You work 70hrs a week and whose fault is that ???????????/yoursssssssssssssssssssss mush

surprisingly maybe to many of you eastern europeans are normally receptive to Unions and join and many become militant SHOP STEWARDS prepared for a bundle =D> =D> not many cowards amonsgt them in my experience ...........................unlike cabbies ..............and of course the cabby johns :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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