Taxi Driver Online

Looking at the new Edinburgh Airport owners Vision of the future is a tad worrying to an outsider PH operator, Looks like if your Not a Bus Service or a Tram Operator then you must be Lowlife car driving vermin to be kept out of the Airport if at all possible unless you are prepared to pay exuberant Short stay parking costs just so you can Collect your clients off a plane.

I read this and it Sent shivers down my PH spine:

[b]Surface access
• The importance of good surface access
is recognised and Edinburgh Airport will
work in partnership with local councils,
the Scottish Government and bus
operating companies to increase the
public transport mode share beyond the
27% by 2011 target, already achieved.
• The airport’s internal road system
will undergo a major reconfiguration,
with priority given to key public
transport options.• A new tram link is envisaged in 2013,
providing links to the heavy rail network.
• Car parking strategy will be reviewed
within the context of achieving an
integrated surface access system which
maximises opportunities for passengers
and staff to travel to the airport by
public transport.[/b]

There is no mention of Improving Car based Transport access, Drop off, Pick up or Short stay Convenience parking, be it for non Airport affiliated Taxi, PH or Private Individual. Nope, They Just See Buses and Trams even though we other road users still make up the other 73% share of Passenger movements to and from the airport.

Why should they want to alienate everyone else from getting to the Airport by car by means of giving Public transport priority of the Car Driving majority. you almost feel as if they take their Customers for granted and that the Customer will put up with no end of Inconvenience just to Fly from Edinburgh.

I'm at the point now where I no longer wish to recommend Edinburgh as a Practical or convenient airport to my Clients and suggest the Likes of Newcastle airport is a more convenient alternative for Catching Flights and for Incoming flights....less stress for them and me.

Here's the Link to their Masterplans etc, I find it makes quite uncomfortable reading, Expansion may be a good thing but not to the neglect of certain groups of Airport Customers and Providers.

http://www.edinburghairport.com/about-us/airport-expansion

Airports see everyone as sheep to be sheered.

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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ and the Taxi and PH trade are looked upon as a cash cow.

If that's the case why do the seem to treat us with so much disdain, ultimately we are only supplying the airport customers with a service that creates more revenue for the Airport itself, why cant they see that. The majority of Airport clients use car based transport to get to the airport because its either easier or their only option. So why treat us like Vermin when we are bigger passenger providers than the Buses or that silly useless tram system that is little more than a mega expensive mobile city Centre Chicane. I think they have their Priorities wrong just to appear Green. Climate Change My Arse

It's Greenwash. They know the vast majority will cough up. They don't care if you're [edited by admin] off, they've got your money.

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The short term car park being continually stappit fu' says it all. The public recognise the need to go to the airport in personal transport.

Airport management has been largely slow in attracting hub airport status for budget airlines servicing the holiday market. Substantially its business case depends on commercial travelling to London, Europe and beyond.

Businessmen and women substantially have no interest in public transport. What they require is the most direct, time saving access for them. And cost is not a part of it. Expenses takes care of the cost.

And these passengers are drawn from a vast hinterland around Edinburgh, even from as far as Dundee and beyond in the North, Glasgow in the east, and the border to the south. Public transport will never be able to meet all of these passengers' requirements.

Yes, the airport needs public transport access, a modern rail link should have been a given rather than the inflexible, truncated tram system. But if it is to be attractive to commercial customers, it needs to meet their needs for car transport.

But the facilities provided by the airport are a disgrace.

There is no official area for PH, Chauffeur drive and other users to wait for clients or family.

There is only one television screen to view incoming flight details, if you can get near it with coach drivers threatening violence if you don't move on.

The flight details are invariably wrong, flights "on approach" regularly change to advise that the flight has already landed, up to 7 minutes previously. Another late meet and greet.

The pick up point contains around 10 very narrow bays its inadequacy highlighted by the traffic logjams when busy flights converge.

Yet, there are myriad disabled bays which could be utilised, over 80% of which are invariably unused.

There should be room for those requiring to leave their vehicles to meet and greet at a reasonable distance. But there isn't. Passengers flying from Newark, and after a long flight, invariably have to be walked to the far end of the car park, or abandoned while the car is brought round to them. Comments of "primitive" are not unusual. Hardly befitting the visitor experience we should be giving a valued visitor to the city.

I understand ECPH have been given special treatment by being allocated space in the fast track parking area. Space that should be available to all customers of the airport. But Airport management doesn't really care about all of its passengers, just those it can extract an extra buck from. And that is precisely the service ECPH provide.

But there are many major organisations who bring custom to the airport. And who don't use ECPH, or City Cabs, and who may well never use them. But are they less important? To the airport? To the city? To those companies who service their needs?

Ask anyone in Edinburgh if they voted at the last local elections? Given only around 30% of the electorate actually did, and each councillor will have been elected by only 1 in 5 of his/her electorate, whose view are they representing when they ram enforced public transport use down our throats? Yours? Your passengers? Really?

There is nothing green about any form of public transport. The truly green policy would be to ban internal UK air travel and transfer it onto the rail network. Airport Management knows this. So it goes along with the green game to salve the politicians and keep them of their backs.

The whole thing is hypocrisy.

Anyway, I can't see a company executive getting up at 3 in the morning to fly to London or wherever, stand at a bus stop to take a bus into town, embark on a tram in Princes Street, and then twiddle their thumbs while the subsidy junky, white elephant tram goes walkabout on a roundabout route to the airport.

When he can call his cab/PH company, get into a warm car, and go directly to the airport in minutes.

SNAFU!

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Let's take a poll.

And no googling before you answer.

Do you know who your local councillor is?

Or your MSP?

MP?

MEP?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Not going to waste any of my time replying to your usual boring long winded posts with the exception of the above part.

You are wrong completely in the above statement. You post "I understand" at the start of this statement. Fact is you know nothing as you are nothing to do with Edinburgh Airport nor any of its taxi providers.

You will know very soon exactly what is going on there but until then why dont you keep your ill informed guesswork to yourself. Very few if any people on here care what you think.

For your information I DO know what is going on there because the company I work for is a taxi provider there and is kept informed by Edinburgh Airport as to what is going on.

It has been a noticably better place since you and skull have been quiet. The forum has been an interesting place to read about local and national issues relating to the taxi trade without the boring irrelevant self opinionated garbage that you especially were guilty of. Why dont you just go quiet again...............

You claim to know, but won't say. Nothing in the garden is not rosy. You're sorted so it has to be OK.

Precisely what is, and always has been wrong with the trade.

And once again I'm larfing my cork off at how the intellectually challenged like you rush in with your usual tripe. Obviously the mere mention of the name of the company stung you. Perhaps you emanate from that fetid stable. Perhaps you're just the saddoe who can't get anyone to post your inane posts for you. I wonder why?

Methinks you need to grow up.

Or perhaps you'd like to meet up and speak to me face to face? Then we can all know the ID of the child who posts as HSSC

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Try reading my last post again jasbar. I will edit it a bit for you so hopefully you will understand it this time.................

Not going to waste any of my time replying to your usual boring long winded posts.

Fact is you know nothing as you are nothing to do with Edinburgh Airport nor any of its taxi providers.

You will know very soon exactly what is going on there but until then why dont you keep your ill informed guesswork to yourself. Very few if any people on here care what you think.

For your information I DO know what is going on there because the company I work for is a taxi provider there and is kept informed by Edinburgh Airport as to what is going on.

It has been a noticably better place since you and skull have been quiet. The forum has been an interesting place to read about local and national issues relating to the taxi trade without the boring irrelevant self opinionated garbage that you especially were guilty of. Why dont you just go quiet again...............

HSSC (Hopeless Selfish Stupid Cretin)

I hate having to deal with petulant children.

The piece was about the selfish shortcomings of airport management. You ignored this.

It was also about how the needs of customers, theirs and ours, are ignored. You also ignored this.

The piece was about how the airport management are vulnerable to political policy. Because they operate in a sector that has NO green credentials. You ignored this.

In short, you can't debate any issue. Because all you see are you're own selfish interests. You don't care about customers or their needs. You're not not interested in customers other than as a cash cow to feed, clothe and house YOU.

You make me boke!!!

I despise you HSSC. And the imbeciles like you who have never learned the simple lesson that you can only thrive if you put the customer FIRST. They're happy, YOU get paid.

Now, put your own interests aside and lets talk about the issues.

And here's another one to think about.

Bearing in mind your new found reliance on all things airport, what do you think would happen if the government, full of zeal for its HS2 policy to expand the rail network with fast inter city links, decided that it was long overdue for aircraft fuel to be taxed at the same level as other fossil fuels?

How Green would that be?

And how f*cked would YOU be, and your taxi/PH masters, and the airport management who would be left with a huge infrastructure and customers disappearing like snow off a dyke as the true cost of air travel priced itself out of the market?

You don't believe it?

Let's start the campaign here.



Tax aircraft carbon fuel - Green HS2 is cool.

I know that more and more companies are looking at their carbon footprint. And if they can show their customers, staff and shareholders how they are reducing their carbon footprint by looking at and moving to green alternatives, then this is something that has merit. And this is the future.

So, where is the morality in flying when you don't really need to?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

I will try again seeing as you obviously cant read

"Not going to waste any of my time replying to your usual boring long winded posts.

Fact is you know nothing as you are nothing to do with Edinburgh Airport nor any of its taxi providers.

You will know very soon exactly what is going on there but until then why dont you keep your ill informed guesswork to yourself. Very few if any people on here care what you think."

Imbecile



Tax aircraft carbon fuel - Green HS2 is cool.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Takes one to know one jasbar......

Still nothing to say. No original thought.

Just blind servile obedience.

You must be religious. Which brand of faith do you subscribe to?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"