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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:03 pm 
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Rear loaders are the scourge of the Taxi Trade, cheap and nasty and a death trap if they ever have a rear end shunt with a disabled passenger on board.

The above are my views and I'm sure they're shared by many in the trade.


Haemorrhoids are an ailment shared by many in this trade. I don't need those either. 8)
Saloon taxi drivers pish doesn't vary much up and down the country. #-o

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Saloon taxi drivers pish doesn't vary much up and down the country. #-o


Bout the size of it... =D>


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:17 pm 
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100% agree tx_op, purely down to greed! As for the peugeots , ive never driven one, as far as im concerned they arent fit for purpose, at least two had or still have, cracked rear floors, according to them nice people at the test centre, so why havent VOSA, been having a wee nosey at them?, if there was a problem with them structurally and they were removed from the approved list, then happy days the trade would return to a degree of normality. But me thinks greed and money talks! #-o


Has anyone phisicaly draged a councilor from the licencing committy to show them the problems with them???


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tallscotsman wrote:
100% agree tx_op, purely down to greed! As for the peugeots , ive never driven one, as far as im concerned they arent fit for purpose, at least two had or still have, cracked rear floors, according to them nice people at the test centre, so why havent VOSA, been having a wee nosey at them?, if there was a problem with them structurally and they were removed from the approved list, then happy days the trade would return to a degree of normality. But me thinks greed and money talks! #-o


Has anyone phisicaly draged a councilor from the licencing committy to show them the problems with them???


Lots of Peugeot Premiers up here. Haven't heard of any with this problem.
At a guess, this was a fault which was quickly rectified or we'd have heard more about it, and not just from Dundee.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:27 pm 
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handyman wrote:
Last night (Wed 21 Aug 2013) I worked from 6pm to 1:30am, and after fuel had a total of £40, that's £20 for me as driver, £20 for the operator.

That works out as £2.85 per hour, with a half hour break.

The national minimum wage is £6.19, so this is less than half the national minimum wage.

How can so many taxi drivers in Dundee still be in the job? How can so many be running expensive disabled van taxis?

I have fairly low living expenses, so I am surviving, just.

I just can't understand, how can so many people have come into this trade with these rates of pay ? I have been doing this job for over 20 years.

I spoke to a guy recently with full-time job with £20K salary also doing Sat nights on taxis part-time - these part-timers are not helping.

Any other exasperated Dundee drivers out there ?

What alternative jobs have you considered, eg self-employed Courier, take-away delivery ?

Any comments please.



Welcome to the world of deregulation.


No, welcome to the world of a fecked economy. We're not operating normal market conditions. There is NO alternative employment, guys can't go back to their real trades, becuase there's n o work there either. The problem is bigger than the taxi trade, which seems unable to think beyond its own narrow existence.

The politicians and the bankers have screwed the economy to such an extent no one can envisage normality ever again. In fact, our new poverty is now our normailty.

Benefit squeezes, bedroom tax, food vans; We've even got a Citizens Advice Bureau producing a pamphlet to inform about help for those who have no money, no food, nothing.

Anyone hear a single politician throw up their hands in horror at this unacceptable occurance? We've returned to the mentality of the workhouse and our politicians are saying what?

The Tories continue to cut benefits to fund the excesses of their banker friends.

The LibDems support the Tories' assault of the poor.

Labour has lost it completely, with its identity crisis caused by its need to appear to be like the Tories so it might stand a chance of re-election, abandoning its grass roots support to do so, and its real function envisaged by its founding fathers of being the campaigning party for the interests of the working class, the poor and disadvantaged in our society.

And the SNP are shunting us all into the sidelines with its diversionary "independence" debate.

One thing is sure. Like Thatcher before him, and Tony Blair before him, Cameron needs to be able to steam into Syria to deflect our attention from yet more politicians' mistakes.

So, the problems in Dundee aren't incestuously taxi trade problems. The whole game is fecked!

You do realise this ... don't you?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:56 am 
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Must say Jim, you put that rather well and, I cannot disagree. =D>


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Yeah good post Jasbar, I am in agreement with most of your comments, except that the SNP MAY help our situation here in Scotland. Eg we would not have the horrific bedroom tax if we were an Independent nation. And also we would not have troops being sent out to fight other peoples wars for them in Iraq and Afghanistan - our young men would not have to die for these dubious causes. And as you say money is being pulled from everywhere to fund the excesses of the Square Mile and Wall St - who can do whatever they like - except WE should not have to pay for it. Fred Goodwin wanted to be like the Americans with his own private golf course and all, and then threw good banking sense out the window and gambled away the entire RBS. When any small business needs help from a bank they are given the cold-shoulder, and larger companies go under because of extortionate fees.

Scotland is potentially a great nation and we should believe in it more - why don't we give Independence a chance. Why do we keep hearing so many scare stories about how bad everything will be if Scotland goes independent. At least we would escape the Tories once and for all.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:14 pm 
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handyman wrote:
Yeah good post Jasbar, I am in agreement with most of your comments, except that the SNP MAY help our situation here in Scotland.


Read Jim's post again.


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handyman wrote:
Yeah good post Jasbar, I am in agreement with most of your comments, except that the SNP MAY help our situation here in Scotland. Eg we would not have the horrific bedroom tax if we were an Independent nation. And also we would not have troops being sent out to fight other peoples wars for them in Iraq and Afghanistan - our young men would not have to die for these dubious causes. And as you say money is being pulled from everywhere to fund the excesses of the Square Mile and Wall St - who can do whatever they like - except WE should not have to pay for it. Fred Goodwin wanted to be like the Americans with his own private golf course and all, and then threw good banking sense out the window and gambled away the entire RBS. When any small business needs help from a bank they are given the cold-shoulder, and larger companies go under because of extortionate fees.

Scotland is potentially a great nation and we should believe in it more - why don't we give Independence a chance. Why do we keep hearing so many scare stories about how bad everything will be if Scotland goes independent. At least we would escape the Tories once and for all.


I agree with your point that Scotland is a great nation and we should believe in it a bit more. But not with "Independence", and I'll explain this in a moment.

Let me say first that to me, being a Scot is a state of mind. It's about equality, humbleness - we're all Jock Tamson's bairns,its about accepting other cultures, embracing them and learning from them, for the common good. And I don't need an artificial boundary which excludes others for me to feel good about being a Scot.

And it's not really "Independence" anyway. Anyone who watches International News in the media, surely has to realise that globalisation renders us all subjects of International financial interests. No nation is any longer "Independent".

And failing to understand this is a folly that can only increase our bureaucracy exponentially, as we busy ourselves trying to replicate in Scotland every government institution that already exists in Westminster - a vast cost at a time when we're already in financial meltdown, and our priorities should be to help those who need help. Because that's what a true Scot would do.

Now, two aspects that really concern me.

First, the SNP. I well remember the SNP chair of the Regulatory Committee, Colin Keir, saying to Gordon MacDonald - who had told the committee that he had been refused being able to work for City Cabs because he had applied for his own taxi licence (the members must be truly proud of such conduct to support it), and that he needed the application to be granted because he was now out of work, unemployed - that the committee members were not there to consider MacDonald's "employment prospects". How caring was Keir? How caring is the SNP?

In short, the SNP are a party who don't care about individuals. Or their families who bear the brunt of their policies. And they care less about free market enterprise. They only care about power. About lording it over Scotland's minions. us.

Keir is a scumbag. And the only conclusion that any reasonable person can draw, is that the party who promoted him into the coven that is the Holyrood Parliament, well they have to be scumbags too. Do you want to live under the yoke of a scumbag totalitarian SNP?

Now, having established the SNP's despicable credentials, would you want them to dictate to you? Consider now how it will happen.

Scotland's Parliamentary system is immature. Unlike other democratic countries, our Parliament has no revising Chamber. The US's checks and balances are in its tripartite system - Congress, Senate and Presidential office. Westminster has the House of Lords. Most other countries have inbuilt checks on those wielding power.

We don't.

Perhaps the reason is that when our Parliament system was being designed, the electoral system was shaped so that no single party would ever have a majority. The checks and balances would be within the body of the Parliament as the governing minority party would have to seek approval from elsewhere within the chamber to pass any legislation.

But with the collapse of the Tories, and discredited Labour, and the duplicitous Libdems, and the Greens little more than an annoyance, the SNP have been able to form an electoral dictatorship.

And that's why we have such wonderful policies as the iniquitous rights denying smoking ban (Unworkable as it is because even cabbies smoke in the cab); Cigarettes stupidly hidden from view in drawers in supermarkets, but not in minor stores (doh!!!); attempting minimum pricing of alcohol, when alcohol is sold cheaper in other countries without the social problems we have; Medical fascists relishing their new found "expert" influence to control our life decisions; and all while the very fabric of our society is being assaulted by our Tory government and while SNP politicians say nothing.

Who wants to live under the jackboot of an SNP dictatorship?

Scotland is not ready for self dependence. I hope it never will be.

I don't want to live in a parochial nation, denied my right to enterprise, by politicians I know have breached my rights, and have breached the rights of taxi trade workers for the last 13 years and more. If the council suspended or revoked YOUR licence, they breached your rights.

And I want them, and the electorate who don't really involve themselves enough to hold our politicians to account, to pay through the nose.

This is where we're heading. An illusory Scotland "Independence" is of no consequence.

And, from those I've spoken to, it is going to be voted down. End of. Hopefully, the end of the SNP.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:35 am 
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What a load of shite.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:33 am 
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gusmac wrote:
What a load of shite.


Such eloquence :lol:

And you and your beloved SNP would lead us to the promised land with such erudition?

Scots will not vote for the SNPs vision.

And you know it.

=D>

And when you lose out, what would be the point of having the SNP? They will disband, won't they? Wouldn't that be the honourable thing to do?

Or will they brass it out and inflict their **** fascism on us anyway?

Sieg Heil Gusmac!!!! :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:44 am 
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gusmac wrote:
What a load of shite.



Heaven forbid a Scot is left to run his own affairs - I mean - once the English left governance you'd all starve to death !!!!

Scotland was doing fairly well as a country until its unelected masters sold their souls (and the future of their Nation) for English gold.

As for fascism - surely that's Scotland being inflicted with policy its inhabitants don't want.......austerity, nuclear weapons - and a UK policy of violence and war.

rule f*cking Britannia

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gusmac wrote:
What a load of shite.



Heaven forbid a Scot is left to run his own affairs - I mean - once the English left governance you'd all starve to death !!!!

Scotland was doing fairly well as a country until its unelected masters sold their souls (and the future of their Nation) for English gold.

As for fascism - surely that's Scotland being inflicted with policy its inhabitants don't want.......austerity, nuclear weapons - and a UK policy of violence and war.

rule f*cking Britannia


I guess you support the SNP then CC? :badgrin:

Cos I don't see any way you're words are not designed to inflame antagonism to the English and drive Scots into the arms of the fascists.

And one other thing, the debate is not about the English, as you seem to think. It's about Scotland playing a full part of the Union. Which is not just the English, but our other partners, the Welsh and Northern Irish.

We're all in it together, and that's the way it should stay.

So, rather than coming across as a petulant, spurned lover, perhaps those articulating your views should remind themselves that England may be the largest partner, but it is still only just that, a partner.

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There is no fascism here Jas, and you know it. Except for the the union's more embarrassing supporters. Your analysis is shite and your union's support is falling faster than The Scotsman's circulation. Your ilk can only pi$$ down the Jocks' backs for so long before they realise it's not raining.
Your argument seems to be Keir is a cvnt and Salmond is a fat b4st4rd. It's a shite argument. Get over it.

Syrian war anyone?
Non-fascist humanitarian wholesale slaughter of civilians only, of course. :---)

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Well Jasbar if Labour, Tories, Libdem, and SNP are ALL no good what the hell are we all going to do? You're saying just let things hang as they grow, and just not believe in anything?

At the end of the day Scotland is the place we physically live, not London, and our politicians should be rooted here and have here as their no. 1 priority.

Our parliament is only basic maybe but it has only just been set in place - America has been independent since 1776 - that's a LONG time to evolve into a more sophisticated system. And if the Americans had got shot of them, then why shouldn't we.

Scottish people do NOT believe in themselves enough - they are slaves to the fags and booze and as a nation a mere toady to the English. The smoking ban was a good thing because you don't stink of smoke now after a night out, plus people smoke less and thus have more money for better things. Plus if alcohol is dearer it encourages people not to drink as much and have more respect for alcohol. Now the pub culture has diminished, taxiing is much less stressful than it was 20 years ago.

We are in agreement re the medical facists though as they have made millions suffer from diseases like cancer and asthma. I actually just got booted off the UK Asthma forum for posting the cure for asthma which I found a year ago and worked 100%.

I got a book by Henry McLeish called 'Scotland : A Suitable Case for Treatment' - he, a Scottish politician, is basically saying we are a schizophrenic nation, and we need to sort ourselves out. That is why there is so much violence and aggression, especially with alcohol. An Edinburgh taxi-driver approached me at the airport and said if I didn't move my taxi he would put my head through the windscreen, just because I had parked at the wrong place for a couple of minutes to make a phone call. Some Edinburgh people are serious hard-nuts. I would have lamped the guy - but it just wouldn't have been worth all the hassle so I just drove off.

I hate it when people ridicule Scottish independence - it is unhealthy to be under annexation by another country, especially one as patronizing and irritating as England. Scotland and England just do not mix - just like oil and water. I have Italian, Irish, and Welsh ancestry as well as Scots but Scotland is where I live and was brought up, so this is the country to whom I am loyal.


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