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Well TDO, if you aint got the money to pay for using the roads will this be an artificial barrier to the market, in er road space? perhaps we could all build our own roads and charge each other for using them. :lol:




Believe it or not, at the present time many people can't afford to use the roads, or if they can they make decisions on how much to use the roads based on the cost of using them.

But I can't see why the fact that someone can't afford something means there's an artificial barrier in place.

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:shock: what, like a Plate :wink: , so using the price mechanism to allocate a scarce resource such as the road network is ok, but using the price mechanism for plates is not :?



I suppose it's OK if you believe in artificial barriers :lol:

For the avoidance of doubt, please note that my earlier comments were not expressing an opinion on road pricing, they were just made in relation to you trying to draw an analogy between road pricing and plate premiums.

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This is the thing that gets me though, you all talk about the free market ( where did Adam Smith come from again :lol: ) in plates, this of course would probably be in keeping with Smithsonian thinking, but pay for the roads,that also finds favour in Smithsonian economics, so how do you reconcile the two?



Perhaps I should have just said that you seem to be equating a free market with no pricing, but in fact free markets are all about utilising the price mechanism.

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Well I suppose we could talk about it for ever, but when free marketeers start to deny the benefits of the free market, it's like wolves turning vegetarian. :lol:

You can still have standards in a free market.

Else we would still be sending young lads up the chimney. :?

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I still fail to see why this issue ( apart from possible infringements of our civil liberties) should be so contentious, it was only a few years ago that you could only get services from the state owned industries of post war Britain, then Mrs Thatcher and monetarism came along and dismantled them.

It was you that equated fuel charges to taxi quotas, that's what I find contentious.

That aside, this site is called Taxi Driver Online, so I think on here, of all places, drivers should be able to moan/pick faults on an issue that could well cost us a lot of money some time in the future.

However if we are exempt, then bring it on. :wink:

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Well I suppose we could talk about it for ever, but when free marketeers start to deny the benefits of the free market, it's like wolves turning vegetarian. :lol:


I'm a bit lost with all this Mr Sirius, you may be the brightest star in the sky ( :D ), but you seem to be implying that those who dislike an element of state interference (ie restricted taxi numbers) can thus be described as 'free marketeers'.

I beg to differ - my preference is for a toughly regulated trade, which hardly equates with the free market.

The market has its uses (for example, in deciding when and where drivers should work), but ultimately it's a good slave, but a bad master.

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If I stole your vehicle and put it on ebay, that would be utilising a market and the pricing mechanism, but that's hardly the point, surely?

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That just takes us back to the artificial element of the restriction.

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