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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:55 am 
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How soon after the 9th do you think the first drivers will be stopped? Just how large are VOSA's resources? Where will the easiest pickings be for them?


it will just be part of the very rare VOSA stops and/or weighbridge checks - i think ive seen about 10 in 40 years driving and never been pulled myself even when in vans or 7.5t trucks

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:07 pm 
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grandad wrote:
How soon after the 9th do you think the first drivers will be stopped? Just how large are VOSA's resources? Where will the easiest pickings be for them?

Calais Eurotunnel and ferry is a good start. Motorway services, schools where there's a lot of section 19 minibuses...

There are no psv tests available at VOSA stations for the next 4 weeks. Nuff said?


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roythebus wrote:
grandad wrote:
How soon after the 9th do you think the first drivers will be stopped? Just how large are VOSA's resources? Where will the easiest pickings be for them?

Calais Eurotunnel and ferry is a good start. Motorway services, schools where there's a lot of section 19 minibuses...

There are no psv tests available at VOSA stations for the next 4 weeks. Nuff said?


theres a lot of ground to cover, a good start would be to ask digicard holders who havent taken the DCPC why not, and that would only need the DVLA database and a mail out

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be plenty of overtime for VOSA!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:56 pm 
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KFC for VOSA? Kerrrrrrrrr f'kin chinggggggggg :D


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:58 am 
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http://www.route-one.net/issues/503/index.html#/2/


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:48 am 
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This is the latest newsletter from the Confederation of Passenger Transport re Driver CPC:

6 September 2013

The deadline of midnight on Monday 9 September is fast approaching for those drivers who took advantage of the original acquired rights when the Driver CPC scheme commenced in 2008. This Newsline Special reports on a number of related issue that will be of interest to our Members.

What the deadline means

Drivers will need to be able to demonstrate that they have completed 35 hours of accredited DCPC training if they are to be able to drive for hire and reward beyond the deadline. This is demonstrated by presentation of a Driver Qualification Card (DQC). Those drivers who have not completed their 35 hours by 9 September will be committing an offence if they drive on a regulated activity after 10 September and the operator will be putting their O licence at risk of revocation by the Traffic Commissioner for permitting the offence to take place.

CPT has been warned that early enforcement of these requirements can be expected.

Not completed the 35 hours of training?

CPT is aware that there are still some of drivers who have not completed all their 35 hours of training required to receive their DQC. In some cases there are very good reasons for this. Members should be aware that as long as the date of the first module undertaken is still within 5 years, it is permissible to carry over training hours beyond the deadline as long as no actual driving takes place until the DQC has been issued. This would assist operators where, for example, it has not been possible for a part time or casual driver to take part in a particular training course.

Remember though that any periodic training that has been completed more than 5 years ago will no longer count towards the current accumulation of hours.

Don’t have your driving licence?

CPT has also been contacted by members who have drivers that had been unable to attend booked Driver CPC courses because they were not in possession of their driving licence companion document/photocard. It is a statutory requirement that these documents are provided prior to commencement of a course. CPT is aware that some drivers are unable to do this because a question has been raised during a licence renewal. This is often related to a vocational medical issue. While this may well be a reason not to issue new licence documents immediately, it should not be a reason to preclude a driver from attending a DCPC training module.

Consequently CPT has agreed with DVLA that where renewal is being sought, existing vocational licence documents will now be returned to drivers, once an issue has been flagged up. This will enable candidates to present their licence to accredited trainers so that they can satisfy the statutory requirement and upload candidate details.

DSA seeks feedback on Driver CPC

Comments requested by 16 October 2013

DSA is asking for views from the freight and passenger transport industry ahead of an EU assessment of Driver CPC periodic training. Members will recall that the EC last month launched a public consultation about Driver CPC training; DSA is asking for industry feedback to help inform will the British government’s response to this consultation. Have your say by replying to DSA’s online survey.

And remember, this is only the beginning

The 9 September deadline is only the beginning – the process is continuous and operators should now be keeping a close eye on DCPC renewal dates for all their staff ongoing.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:42 pm 
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BUT.....do these three groups need a D1 and/or a DCPC? (17 seater LWB)

Teachers IN SCHOOL TIME transporting the netball team
Teachers OUT OF SCHOOL TIME transporting the netball team (salaried, not hourly paid remember)
School employees (non-teachers) who collect kids every day from a train station
Factory employees EMPLOYED as drivers collecting factory staff

If schools hire out the LWB bus do they need self drive hire?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:07 pm 
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It matters not whether the driver is being paid to drive. It is whether the purpose of the journey is for "economic activity". If the kids pay to travel, i.e. out of school hours then yes; if it's a fee-paying school, then the rules of Rout-v-Swallow hotel apply. This is my view and not neccessarily the legal stance.

School staff should not be collecting kids from the railway station, see above. To do it regularly would be seen as outside "social kindness", going to and from school is not part of the school day and I doubt the school would do it for free and should therefore be licenced properly.

Factory/workers transport, yes as the driver is doing it as part of his job and there's been a lot of reported accidents often with fatalities using works buses.


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till a test case is taken its all ifs and buts

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:58 pm 
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Yarp. 8)


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Today is the day. 8)

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:27 am 
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I wonder who's going to be the first to get nicked? VOSA were out on the A21 south of Flimwell yesterday, maybe "advising" bus drivers not to get caught today... :badgrin:


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I wonder who's going to be the first to get nicked? VOSA were out on the A21 south of Flimwell yesterday, maybe "advising" bus drivers not to get caught today... :badgrin:


well if they hadnt got a D/D1 DCPC yesterday they wont have done 35 hours by today will they

my mates boss (millionaire, owns a castle and printing firm, sponsors son in Indy cart, drives a vantage and Audi R8) keeps ignoring the issue for his 7.5t drivers

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:48 pm 
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He's got another year minus 35 hours to keep ignoring it if he's running lorries.


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