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 Post subject: About time.....
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:11 pm 
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Minimum Wage – Important information 19 September 2013

Dear Operator

County Council has been receiving more and more reports stating that minimum wage is not being paid to some passenger assistants by operators.

Please note that we can request to see pay slips from operators to their staff as per the terms and conditions of contract and has a duty

7.10 The Council reserves the right to request proof of gross wages paid to Escorts.

Please ensure that all your staff are at least receiving minimum wage, because if your company is not paying minimum wage, they would be breaking the law. Breaking the law is seen as a major breach of contract and could result in contracts being terminated and your company being taken off the approved operator framework.

It is worth stating that this issue maybe becoming to light due to a discrepancy between how many hours an operator considers a passenger assistant to have worked and the opinion of the passenger assistant. Please ensure you are clear with your staff what their working hours are, when they start getting paid and when they finish getting paid. For example a passenger assistant may meet the taxi at the base however the operator does not pay until reached first pick up.

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:53 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
For example a passenger assistant may meet the taxi at the base however the operator does not pay until reached first pick up.

That is an interesting point, what if the first pick up is 3 hours from base. We have jobs like that in Leicestershire.

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
For example a passenger assistant may meet the taxi at the base however the operator does not pay until reached first pick up.

That is an interesting point, what if the first pick up is 3 hours from base. We have jobs like that in Leicestershire.


Ive replied, we all know what goes on, unpaid family escorts and cash in hand to benefit claimants are just 2 issues

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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There could be a sudden reduction in escort numbers! (and silly escort-job tender prices)

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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wannabeeahack wrote:
There could be a sudden reduction in escort numbers! (and silly escort-job tender prices)



Dream on !!

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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edders23 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
There could be a sudden reduction in escort numbers! (and silly escort-job tender prices)



Dream on !!


"escort" jobs going for £1 per loaded mile or less INCLUDING an escort will be loss leaders if the escort is on the NMW

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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seems odd they are worried escorts might not hit the NMW but wont bother checking the taxi/PH makes a profit...

they didnt answer my email BTW

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wannabeeahack wrote:
seems odd they are worried escorts might not hit the NMW but wont bother checking the taxi/PH makes a profit...

they didnt answer my email BTW



Our escorts had to be on the NMW, County Hall insisted on them being paid correctly. Years ago they were paid in the hand, they were happy so was the boss.

A few years ago they clamped down on cash in hand so the escorts had to be paid the NMW and on the books, many of them finished because they were pensioners or were claiming DLA.

That's when we lost most of our contracts because some firms round here aren't paying NMW and are paying cash in hand to their escorts therefore they can do it for nothing.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
edders23 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
There could be a sudden reduction in escort numbers! (and silly escort-job tender prices)



Dream on !!


"escort" jobs going for £1 per loaded mile or less INCLUDING an escort will be loss leaders if the escort is on the NMW



There will always be drivers out there with family members available to help out by doing the job for free or beer money or a couple of free taxis a day to and from the bookies/dole office etc. which enables the driver to get the contract by bidding cheap

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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Nidge2 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
seems odd they are worried escorts might not hit the NMW but wont bother checking the taxi/PH makes a profit...

they didnt answer my email BTW



Our escorts had to be on the NMW, County Hall insisted on them being paid correctly. Years ago they were paid in the hand, they were happy so was the boss.

A few years ago they clamped down on cash in hand so the escorts had to be paid the NMW and on the books, many of them finished because they were pensioners or were claiming DLA.

That's when we lost most of our contracts because some firms round here aren't paying NMW and are paying cash in hand to their escorts therefore they can do it for nothing.

If County hall insisted on it, then how did the other firms get away with it?

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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edders23 wrote:


There will always be drivers out there with family members available to help out by doing the job for free or beer money or a couple of free taxis a day to and from the bookies/dole office etc. which enables the driver to get the contract by bidding cheap


That wont help if county want to see a payslip/N.I. number or P60 for the escort though will it

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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FFS dont tell my missus she should be getting paid, I told her she does it for love

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 Post subject: Re: About time.....
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grandad wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
seems odd they are worried escorts might not hit the NMW but wont bother checking the taxi/PH makes a profit...

they didnt answer my email BTW



Our escorts had to be on the NMW, County Hall insisted on them being paid correctly. Years ago they were paid in the hand, they were happy so was the boss.

A few years ago they clamped down on cash in hand so the escorts had to be paid the NMW and on the books, many of them finished because they were pensioners or were claiming DLA.

That's when we lost most of our contracts because some firms round here aren't paying NMW and are paying cash in hand to their escorts therefore they can do it for nothing.

If County hall insisted on it, then how did the other firms get away with it?



Dunno.


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