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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:49 am 
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Strangely enough we've just had an email inviting us to join Cabfind and how wonderful they are. The words Fraser Eagle sprang to mind. Quite how they expect us as a company based on the Romney Marsh to deal with Virgin Trains etc. when we have South Eastern and an DBS depot near us is rather odd. I also note they are intending to get coach operators involved too.

The bus industry also have long memories and the words Fraser Eagle are still very fresh in peoples' minds considering the millions they shafted from bus operators. Luckily the company I ran at the time didn't fall for the FE line!

I don't have any intention of working for agents, especially if they require vast amounts of paperwork and expect me to work for peanuts then wait months for payment, which is what it will be.

I note the founder went to the same school as Sir Peter Hendy MBE.



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Innovation Award for Wirral based Cabfind.com


Wirral-based Cabfind.com has been recognised for its forward thinking by business leaders.

Cabfind.com, which was established in 2005 and operates from its headquarters in Birkenhead, won the Innovation Award at the Wirral Business Awards 2013.

Organised by Wirral Business Partnership, the event was hosted by BBC Radio Merseyside’s Roger Phillips, and was attended by over 450 leading business figures from across Liverpool City Region.

Cabfind.com pioneered the first generation of dynamic taxi booking systems. Now UK market leaders, it specialises in nationwide ground transportation services, and manages the private hire transport needs of corporate clients and the public sector with a virtual fleet of over 100,000 vehicles.

Cabfind.com business partners and brothers, Chris and Tim Jordan, were delighted with the accolade.

Chris Jordan, managing director of Cabfind.com, said:“We strive to be the very best in our sector and we are always pioneering new ways in which to grow and develop the business. Winning the Innovation Award tells us that we’re moving in the right direction."

Tim Jordan, operations director of Cabfind.com, said: "Winning an award for innovation is testament to our specialist team, who work extremely closely with our clients to ensure the best possible service.

"And to be recognised by our Wirral contemporaries means such a lot to us. Wirral is a fantastic place in which to do business – the perfect base for enterprise and growth."

Cabfind.com is recognised for innovative and effective service delivery, underpinned by a business model that is proven to deliver significant cost savings for clients – with plans to further expand the platform into Europe and America.

Focusing on the business to business sector, Cabfind.com provides corporate customers with a central point of contact to book and bill all of their ground transport requirements throughout the UK, with complete visibility for their entire spend on one bill. These clients include Virgin Trains; National Express; Government Procurement Service; Capita; FirstGroup.

Paula Basnett, chief executive of Wirral Business Partnership, said: "We are very pleased that amongst the excellence highlighted by every business which took part during the Wirral Business Awards, Cabfind.com was successful in receiving such a prestigious accolade as the 2013 winners of the Innovation Award.

"The work which the company has been developing with this innovative process has certainly helped to drive its business growth and made its customer care experience amongst the best in the UK.”

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
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And will probably make a lot of taxi drivers skint in the process, as well as charging their clients more than they'd pay if they booked direct with the operator!

why are big businesses so thick as to not realise that agents don't do things for nothing!


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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:24 am 
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And will probably make a lot of taxi drivers skint in the process, as well as charging their clients more than they'd pay if they booked direct with the operator!

why are big businesses so thick as to not realise that agents don't do things for nothing!


Why will they make a lot of drivers skint? I don't particularly like Chris Jordan or his ethics but I can't see why cabfind would make drivers skint, however the fact that their other ph company has a policy of taking on drivers regardless if there is work, that makes drivers work long and dangerous hours as well as keeping them skint :wink:

As to why businesses use them that's simple, if you want 5/10 cabs in 5/10 different areas you make 1 phone call instead of 5/10.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:35 am 
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manages the private hire transport needs of corporate clients


Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 Section 80 Interpretation of Part I

“operate” means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle;


Shanks v North Tyneside Borough Council 2001

HELD: Under a proper construction of s.46 & s80 of the local Government Miscellaneous Provisions Act 1976, whenever any operator made provision by accepting bookings for the hire of vehicles he had to use vehicles and drivers licensed by his local authority.

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:55 am 
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Why will they make a lot of drivers skint? I don't particularly like Chris Jordan or his ethics but I can't see why cabfind would make drivers skint, however the fact that their other ph company has a policy of taking on drivers regardless if there is work, that makes drivers work long and dangerous hours as well as keeping them skint :wink:

As to why businesses use them that's simple, if you want 5/10 cabs in 5/10 different areas you make 1 phone call instead of 5/10.


People said much the same about Fraser Eagle.

The operation is obviously illegal when you consider the Shanks case - bizarre how Wirral Council are not taking action - yet they continue to use draconian measures against the drivers they license.

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
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roythebus wrote:
And will probably make a lot of taxi drivers skint in the process, as well as charging their clients more than they'd pay if they booked direct with the operator!

why are big businesses so thick as to not realise that agents don't do things for nothing!


Why will they make a lot of drivers skint? I don't particularly like Chris Jordan or his ethics but I can't see why cabfind would make drivers skint, however the fact that their other ph company has a policy of taking on drivers regardless if there is work, that makes drivers work long and dangerous hours as well as keeping them skint :wink:

As to why businesses use them that's simple, if you want 5/10 cabs in 5/10 different areas you make 1 phone call instead of 5/10.



Because when the job has been passed down the line from EWS to Cabfind then onto the nearest Private Hire office the job is closest to the profits would've been eaten away.

EWS pay a premium to Cabfind to get drivers to their destinations vica versa.

I was talking to EWS's area boss Nigel Copstake a few years ago when we did work for EWS direct, his words were, "as long as the driver gets to his destination on time we'll pay".

We had a good few years out of them until Cabfind came onto the scene.


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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:42 pm 
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Why will they make a lot of drivers skint? I don't particularly like Chris Jordan or his ethics but I can't see why cabfind would make drivers skint, however the fact that their other ph company has a policy of taking on drivers regardless if there is work, that makes drivers work long and dangerous hours as well as keeping them skint :wink:

As to why businesses use them that's simple, if you want 5/10 cabs in 5/10 different areas you make 1 phone call instead of 5/10.


People said much the same about Fraser Eagle.

The operation is obviously illegal when you consider the Shanks case - bizarre how Wirral Council are not taking action - yet they continue to use draconian measures against the drivers they license.


Perhaps WBC hasn't had a complaint about them or their legality :?

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:07 am 
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Nidge2 wrote:
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roythebus wrote:
And will probably make a lot of taxi drivers skint in the process, as well as charging their clients more than they'd pay if they booked direct with the operator!

why are big businesses so thick as to not realise that agents don't do things for nothing!


Why will they make a lot of drivers skint? I don't particularly like Chris Jordan or his ethics but I can't see why cabfind would make drivers skint, however the fact that their other ph company has a policy of taking on drivers regardless if there is work, that makes drivers work long and dangerous hours as well as keeping them skint :wink:

As to why businesses use them that's simple, if you want 5/10 cabs in 5/10 different areas you make 1 phone call instead of 5/10.



Because when the job has been passed down the line from EWS to Cabfind then onto the nearest Private Hire office the job is closest to the profits would've been eaten away.

EWS pay a premium to Cabfind to get drivers to their destinations vica versa.

I was talking to EWS's area boss Nigel Copstake a few years ago when we did work for EWS direct, his words were, "as long as the driver gets to his destination on time we'll pay".

We had a good few years out of them until Cabfind came onto the scene.

A lot of bus operators did as well until Fraser Eagle came on the scene. Luckily they didn't get a foothold in the south east. Us suvverners might have a bit of a better nose for a scam than those from oop north. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
PostPosted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:20 am 
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Us suvverners might have a bit of a better nose for a scam than those from oop north. :?



Yeah usually because its southerners scamming northerners - set a thief to catch a thief and all that :lol:

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Us suvverners might have a bit of a better nose for a scam than those from oop north. :?



Yeah usually because its southerners scamming northerners - set a thief to catch a thief and all that :lol:


I think us up North are too busy being educated, it appears that those from the South don't spell too well :wink: That aside perhaps I'll ask our LO next time I'm there how exactly Cabfind work without being licensed and why they haven't taken any action as per the aforementioned case.

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
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That aside perhaps I'll ask our LO next time I'm there how exactly Cabfind work without being licensed and why they haven't taken any action as per the aforementioned case.


Perhaps you should ask them why a PH operator needs bother applying for planning permission when all they actually do is be a dynamic taxi booking system that specialises in nationwide (but mainly Wirral) ground transportation services, and manages the private hire transport needs of corporate clients and the public sector with a virtual fleet of over 100,000 or maybe 40 vehicles.

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 Post subject: Re: Profile of leeches
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That aside perhaps I'll ask our LO next time I'm there how exactly Cabfind work without being licensed and why they haven't taken any action as per the aforementioned case.


Perhaps you should ask them why a PH operator needs bother applying for planning permission when all they actually do is be a dynamic taxi booking system that specialises in nationwide (but mainly Wirral) ground transportation services, and manages the private hire transport needs of corporate clients and the public sector with a virtual fleet of over 100,000 or maybe 40 vehicles.


:lol: :lol: :lol: I bet they didn't need to wait 6 months and deal with some ignorant female at the planning dept ffs

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I wonder if they have 100,000 virtual Operators Licences and 100,000 lots of insurance to pay too?


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No but they require you to provide proof of licenses and tons of other information plus they make it clear they expect tariff 1 24 hours a day !

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