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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:30 am 
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But the acts have nothing to do with road access.



But they do with the description and activities of the vehicles licensed

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:21 am 
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Taxi or Mini Cab in some parts of the country it makes little difference. Both are included in the regional transport policy as an integral part of the local transport infrastructure. Both need to co exist, they have differing customer bases and should have the option of using bus lanes (especially) when carrying fare paying passengers.

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I don't see many Rother vehicles hindering Bus Lane users in London.

I would see 60'000 London minicabs, even a few £50k mercs, blocking them up to the extent they just won't work.

But that's Griffins hope all along......


The unions and associations should be querying the self employed status for minicab drivers - many immigrants drive minicabs (and taxis) due to the self employed status being used to avoid employment rules surrounding immigrants.


Indeed they do and guess what those companies exploiting these rules regs workers have contracts with THE GOVERNMENT BBC ITN THE TORY PARTY MANY BANKS HOSPITALS LOCAL COUNCILS ad infinitum :evil: corrupt Britain in action :badgrin: :badgrin: oh and of Course the Von Windsor rabble have a contract with one of the biggest in the field :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:16 pm 
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Indeed they do and guess what those companies exploiting these rules regs workers have contracts with THE GOVERNMENT BBC ITN THE TORY PARTY MANY BANKS HOSPITALS LOCAL COUNCILS ad infinitum :evil: corrupt Britain in action :badgrin: :badgrin: oh and of Course the Von Windsor rabble have a contract with one of the biggest in the field :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:



The self employed con trick needs looked at first :shock:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 5:35 pm 
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here we go again the point everyone flounces over is the one GBC made and that is that if you open up the bus lanes to too many vehicles they will completely choke up

Don't forget like a bus a Hackney carriage is PUBLIC HIRE that can be picked up in the street a "minicab"/PH is a private car that is allowed to transport perearranged bookings for financial gain

Public= appropriate to use seperate lanes Private = what would the point of the seperate lane be if private cars could use them

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captain cab wrote:
But they do with the description and activities of the vehicles licensed

Why?

I know plenty of cab drivers I wouldn't allow on the road let alone in a bus lane, whilst I also know plenty of PH drivers who when it comes top customer service pi** over the service supplied by many in the cab trade.

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Public= appropriate to use seperate lanes Private = what would the point of the seperate lane be if private cars could use them

No one is asking for private cars to access the lanes, the issue is a licensed vehicle gaining access.

If you said to DHL you can use all roads and motorways, yet to parcel force you can only use b roads, people would think you are stark raving bonkers.

And they would be right.

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DHL and Parcel Force have trained LGV licensed drivers, both operate a fleet of new vehicles with drivers that are highly trained.

Taxis in London are the highest regulated and trained drivers anywhere in the world.

Minicab drivers get a license from their Kellogg's packets . . . in Poland . . . or Zambia

We're a public hire, they're a private contract with fixed prices.

That's why I'm confident TFL will fight it to the death . . . and win.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:22 am 
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trotskys twin wrote:
captain cab wrote:
GBC wrote:
I don't see many Rother vehicles hindering Bus Lane users in London.

I would see 60'000 London minicabs, even a few £50k mercs, blocking them up to the extent they just won't work.

But that's Griffins hope all along......


The unions and associations should be querying the self employed status for minicab drivers - many immigrants drive minicabs (and taxis) due to the self employed status being used to avoid employment rules surrounding immigrants.


Indeed they do and guess what those companies exploiting these rules regs workers have contracts with THE GOVERNMENT BBC ITN THE TORY PARTY MANY BANKS HOSPITALS LOCAL COUNCILS ad infinitum :evil: corrupt Britain in action :badgrin: :badgrin: oh and of Course the Von Windsor rabble have a contract with one of the biggest in the field :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:



Griffins (or was) a major Tory donor.

He doesn't seem to like Boris anymore though.

Wonder why? Not enough contracts awarded or hoops jumped through?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:53 am 
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Ray East Yorks wrote:
Taxi or Mini Cab in some parts of the country it makes little difference. Both are included in the regional transport policy as an integral part of the local transport infrastructure. Both need to co exist, they have differing customer bases and should have the option of using bus lanes (especially) when carrying fare paying passengers.


At last we have have a sensible reply, and both types of vehicles carry disabled passengers, so by allowing only hacks would be against the DDA.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 10:34 am 
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GBC wrote:
DHL and Parcel Force have trained LGV licensed drivers, both operate a fleet of new vehicles with drivers that are highly trained.

Taxis in London are the highest regulated and trained drivers anywhere in the world.

Minicab drivers get a license from their Kellogg's packets . . . in Poland . . . or Zambia

We're a public hire, they're a private contract with fixed prices.

That's why I'm confident TFL will fight it to the death . . . and win.


I accept that Taxis in London are heavily regulated, but in respect of the highest trained drivers "I'm assuming this is referring to the Knowledge" which I am aware is a fantastic feat to achieve, but seriously are you trying to tell me that all London Taxi drivers are physic " They can forecast traffic/accidents/breakdowns on route" the latest sat nav systems include live traffic updates, re-routing the driver to avoid trouble spots, ensuring that the travelling PUBLIC are transferred from A - B expediently as possible. Technology is a useful tool.

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Sussex wrote:
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Public= appropriate to use seperate lanes Private = what would the point of the seperate lane be if private cars could use them

No one is asking for private cars to access the lanes, the issue is a licensed vehicle gaining access.

If you said to DHL you can use all roads and motorways, yet to parcel force you can only use b roads, people would think you are stark raving bonkers.

And they would be right.


A fare paying passenger of either a Public or Private hire vehicle has the same rights, to get from point of pick up to destination within a sensible timeframe at a realistic price. If the journey is pre-booked (Private Hire) why should they be penalised by the licenced vehicle being excluded from bus lanes, adding time to their journey which is actually an indirect cost. As stated in my previous posts Public & Private hire have differing customer bases, why should that 75 year old lady have to leave home 30 - 40 minutes earlier to get to a hospital appointment because she prefers to pre book her journey in order that she has the piece of mind.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Ray East Yorks wrote:
GBC wrote:
DHL and Parcel Force have trained LGV licensed drivers, both operate a fleet of new vehicles with drivers that are highly trained.

Taxis in London are the highest regulated and trained drivers anywhere in the world.

Minicab drivers get a license from their Kellogg's packets . . . in Poland . . . or Zambia

We're a public hire, they're a private contract with fixed prices.

That's why I'm confident TFL will fight it to the death . . . and win.


I accept that Taxis in London are heavily regulated, but in respect of the highest trained drivers "I'm assuming this is referring to the Knowledge" which I am aware is a fantastic feat to achieve, but seriously are you trying to tell me that all London Taxi drivers are physic " They can forecast traffic/accidents/breakdowns on route" the latest sat nav systems include live traffic updates, re-routing the driver to avoid trouble spots, ensuring that the travelling PUBLIC are transferred from A - B expediently as possible. Technology is a useful tool.




Tell you what Ray, you stick to your place in Yorkshire, I'll stick to London.

If you think your sat nav beats my Knowledge, I'll see you down here run off your feet like I am.

Baaaa.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:12 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
Ray East Yorks wrote:
Taxi or Mini Cab in some parts of the country it makes little difference. Both are included in the regional transport policy as an integral part of the local transport infrastructure. Both need to co exist, they have differing customer bases and should have the option of using bus lanes (especially) when carrying fare paying passengers.


At last we have have a sensible reply, and both types of vehicles carry disabled passengers, so by allowing only hacks would be against the DDA.



And how many London minicabs are wav?

Better still, how many London Minicab drivers speak more than 6 words of English?

And if it was against the dda, which its not, have a guess at how many of Griffins multi million pound law team would have thought of that by this stage in the proceedings?

Go on . . . :D


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any cab driver needing a sat nav around their manor....aint a cab driver :roll:

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