Taxi Driver Online

Yes we have spoke but we are like ships in the night we can get the time to speck more than a few minits

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C. Oakes


The Hackney Association Ltd
bbha@btinternet.com

If a license is suspended but the plate is not removed, how are the public supposed to know that the vehicle is not to be used?

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Grandad,

I didn't write the act - but there has to be a mechanism for appeal.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Under section 58 of the LGMP act 1976, the plate may only be returned to the (by written notice, after which the licence holder has seven days from the service of notice in which to do this) for three reasons:- the revocation of the licence, the expiry of the licence, or the suspension of the licence under a section 68 notice of mechanical fault on the vehicle or it's meter.
In order to remove the plate under revocation or expiry, the council has to comply with section 60 of the 1976 act, thus giving rise to the licence holders right to continue working under section 77.
further you have right of appeal under section 300-302 of the public health act 1936, and your right to carry on working under section 77 of the 1976 act.
Technically you in driving the vehicle without the plate displayed, could be deemed to be committing an offence- as a result of the actions of the council in removing it unlawfully.
The above relates to p/hire. There are similar acts relating to hackney.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

turn it around

your a LO and you check a vehicle and find it has lights not working and a bald tyre

how can you stop the vehicle working?

plates are mounted on the vehicle exterior for a reason, rather than inside like a tax disc

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

the car OWNER is never the PLATE owner, just licensed to use it

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

Removal of plate = section 58 applies therefore a formal section 68 notice
MUST have been issued or section 58 would not apply unless licence had
expired or been revoked. (if revoked then formal notice should also
been given in writing to include the right of appeal).
So no 68 = no 58 and if 68 was issued then a formal 58 notice would also
have been required.
Simples

If a vehicle is deemed unsafe by a licensing or enforcement officer, what powers do they have to remove the vehicle from the road immediatley?

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Grandad,

aint that a matter for the police or vosa?

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I know that the police and VOSA can issue a PG9 but what, if anything can a licensing officer do? And if a PG9 is issued, can a licensing officer then remove the plate?

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Grandad,

No he can't.Technically you in driving the vehicle without the plate displayed, could be deemed to be committing an offence- as a result of the actions of the council in removing it unlawfully.

If the vehicle is the subject of a PG9 it is not allowed to be driven on the road.

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Grandad,

But it is still licensed and subject to an appeals procedure.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

surely THE law out ranks licensing law?

i.e. its a taxi with no insurance, its being seized under section 165A of the Road Traffic Act 1988 plate or no plate

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most