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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:10 pm 
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Men and youth deny sexually exploiting vulnerable girls, court told


THREE men and a 17-year-old youth have gone on trial accused of grooming and sexually exploiting vulnerable girls under-16.

The group is accused of befriending the girls before using threats and intimidation to get them to have sex.

A jury at Teesside Crown Court was told seven girls - one aged 13, five aged 14 and one aged 15 - were manipulated and abused by the men.

Outlining the case for the prosecution on the first day of their trial, Christopher Knox said the case involved the exploitation of a group of young girls by a loosely connected group of young men.

He added: "These are sexual activities with girls who are almost without exception vulnerable for one reason or another and who have, in almost all cases, been groomed by these young men and sometimes passed around from one to another.

"The prosecution say this is not a girlfriend boyfriend relationship - it is an exploitative relationship which we call grooming."

Shakil Munir, 32, of Tollesby Road, Middlesbrough, is charged with four counts of sexual activity with a child and child abduction against two girls aged 13 and 14.

Junaid Butt, 18, of Kensington Road, Middlesbrough, is charged with sexual activity with a child and arranging or facilitating commission of a child sex offence. His two alleged victims were aged 14 and 15.

Ibrar Mahmood, 18, of Breckon Hill Road, Middlesbrough, faces four charges of sexual activity with a child and three of causing or inciting a child to engage in sexual activity. The charges relate to two girls both aged 14.

The 17-year-old male youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is charged with three counts of arranging or facilitating commission of a child sex offence. His three alleged victims were aged 14.

A fifth defendant, Sakib Ahmed, 18, of Cambridge Road, Middlesbrough, has admitted five charges of sexual activity with a child. The charges relate to five girls, one aged 13, three aged 14 and one aged 15.

The court heard the girls had been given cannabis and free cigarettes by some of the men, who used Facebook, as well as Blackberry and MSN messaging, to keep in touch with the girls.

The jury was told one defendant, 32-year-old Shakil Munir, had got to know two of the girls after picking them up in his taxi.

He later collected a 14-year-old girl in the middle of the night while she was still wearing her pyjamas, slippers and dressing gown, Mr Knox said.

The barrister added than although the girl though they were going to buy cigarettes, the defendant drove her to a lay-by near Stokesley.

He then asked for oral sex, but when the girl laughed at him he threatened to throw her out of the car, Mr Knox said.

In a separate incident, Ibrar Mahmood is alleged to have a pinned down a 14-year-old girl and demanded she gave him oral sex.

The jury was told the defendant had also threatened to tell the girl's boyfriend about their sexual relationship unless she did as he wanted.

Junaid Butt is alleged to have kept one girl's friend out of the way while his friend, Sakib Ahmed, could engage in sexual activity with her underage friend.

The court heard that Mr Ahmed allegedly told a 14-year-old to "pretend" she was 16 when they met at an under-18s disco at The Vault, in Stockton.

Prosecutors say all defendants knew the girls were under 16, with one girl asking a defendant to take her to school and another appearing on her Facebook profile in her school uniform with her date of birth also visible.

All five defendants deny all charges.

Judge John Walford told the jury that comparisons could be drawn with similar cases which had prompted public debate, however he urged them to try the case on the evidence.

The trial is expected to last up to four weeks.


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Teenager tells of alleged abuse by Middlesbrough taxi driver


A 13-YEAR-old girl told police how a taxi driver had sex with her in his car after picking her up from a care home.

The girl said Shakil Munir told her she was pretty after collecting her from the Middlesbrough home and driving to a lay-by.

However, she later told police she felt “used” after the pair had sex in his taxi.

Mr Munir and three others deny grooming and sexually exploiting under-age girls.

The jury at their trial at Teesside Crown Court were today (Wednesday, November 6 ) shown a video of a police interview with the youngest of the seven alleged victims.

She said: “He told me how much he thought of me.

“He told me I’m a really nice girl. He said he wanted to see more of me.”

He later took her back to the care home at around 1.30am, the court heard.

The girl said Mr Munir, 32, had been there for her when she had been unhappy because of family problems.

But asked how she now felt about their relationship, she said: “I feel like I’ve been used.”

Mr Munir continued to contact her even after he had been warned to keep away because of her age by a friend’s mother, the jury heard.

The girl told police how she and a friend were driven to a house party by another man, 19-year-old Sakib Ahmed.

She said they were passed a cannabis joint to smoke. Mr Ahmed then asked her to go upstairs where he had sex with her.

Mr Ahmed, of Cambridge Road, Middlesbrough, has already admitted five charges of sexual activity with a child. The charges relate to five girls, one aged 13, three aged 14 and one aged 15.

Mr Munir, of Tollesby Road, Middlesbrough, is charged with four counts of sexual activity with a child and child abduction against two girls aged 13 and 14.

Two other men deny various charges including sexual activity with a child.

A 17-year-old youth is charged with three counts of arranging or facilitating commission of a child sex offence.

The trial continues.

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here we go again just how many cases are there and it seems to be 90% involve men of one particular ethnic group :roll:

One statistic i heard mentioned on the news the other night in relation to a prison is that some prisons ONLY contain sex offenders :shock: we have entire prisons filled with only one type of offender it makes you think

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here we go again just how many cases are there and it seems to be 90% involve men of one particular ethnic group :roll:

One statistic i heard mentioned on the news the other night in relation to a prison is that some prisons ONLY contain sex offenders :shock: we have entire prisons filled with only one type of offender it makes you think



They use Whatton Jail on the A52 near Grantham to house sex offenders.


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Belonging from that particular ethnic background I have two thoughts about this.

1) This kind of crimes are commited by all kinds of people from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds. Why pinpoint one particular race of people? A paedo is a paedo..why does the ethnic background matter?
2) Castrate these c*****!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29 am 
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I was referring to the disproportionate amount of men from one particular background but I apologise if that sounded racfist

on point 2 I think you are right because this seems to be a torrent of cases not the odd one or two there needs to be a more effective deterrent

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I was referring to the disproportionate amount of men from one particular background but I apologise if that sounded racfist

on point 2 I think you are right because this seems to be a torrent of cases not the odd one or two there needs to be a more effective deterrent



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edders23 wrote:
I was referring to the disproportionate amount of men from one particular background but I apologise if that sounded racfist

on point 2 I think you are right because this seems to be a torrent of cases not the odd one or two there needs to be a more effective deterrent


It didnt sound racist. I was highlighting how only one ethnicity of people seem to be in the news for these kind of disgusting acts. Surely paedos of other ethnicities arent on holiday or on sick leave? You dont really hear about it or if you do it doesnt really stick out. A disgusting man is a disgusting man regardless of their ethnicity.

What should that detterent be? Prison doesnt seem to deter these people. Why would it? They have smartphone and xboxes in prison.

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jman316 wrote:
edders23 wrote:
I was referring to the disproportionate amount of men from one particular background but I apologise if that sounded racfist

on point 2 I think you are right because this seems to be a torrent of cases not the odd one or two there needs to be a more effective deterrent


It didnt sound racist. I was highlighting how only one ethnicity of people seem to be in the news for these kind of disgusting acts. Surely paedos of other ethnicities arent on holiday or on sick leave? You dont really hear about it or if you do it doesnt really stick out. A disgusting man is a disgusting man regardless of their ethnicity.

What should that detterent be? Prison doesnt seem to deter these people. Why would it? They have smartphone and xboxes in prison.



Unfortunately our press have a bandwagon to ride and as everyone knows the british press are about as impartial as Adolf Hitler !

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What should that detterent be? Prison doesnt seem to deter these people. Why would it? They have smartphone and xboxes in prison.[/quote]


Unfortunately our press have a bandwagon to ride and as everyone knows the british press are about as impartial as Adolf Hitler ![/quote]

Of course they are. Thats their axe and they have to grind it.
Doesnt change the fact these F***** are scum and should be punished..extremely!!

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jman316 wrote:
2) Castrate these c*****!!

Unfortunatly that isn't an option in this day and age but, although it sounds a tad drastic, isn't this the way that it used to be done. Taking away the vital parts is supposed to also stop the body from producing the hormones that control sexual appetite. Maybe it is time for a rethink. :wink:

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grandad wrote:
jman316 wrote:
2) Castrate these c*****!!

Unfortunatly that isn't an option in this day and age but, although it sounds a tad drastic, isn't this the way that it used to be done. Taking away the vital parts is supposed to also stop the body from producing the hormones that control sexual appetite. Maybe it is time for a rethink. :wink:


They can give you a tablet these days to switch off your urge for wanting a smoke!!! Maybe something similiar for these animals which switches off all their 'urges'.

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jman316 wrote:
grandad wrote:
jman316 wrote:
2) Castrate these c*****!!

Unfortunatly that isn't an option in this day and age but, although it sounds a tad drastic, isn't this the way that it used to be done. Taking away the vital parts is supposed to also stop the body from producing the hormones that control sexual appetite. Maybe it is time for a rethink. :wink:


They can give you a tablet these days to switch off your urge for wanting a smoke!!! Maybe something similiar for these animals which switches off all their 'urges'.

It can already be done with tablets and this, i believe, does happen in some cases. However, This kind of treatment would require the person to keep taking their medication which, unfortunatly, can't be relied on.

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They can give you a tablet these days to switch off your urge for wanting a smoke!!! Maybe something similiar for these animals which switches off all their 'urges'.[/quote]
It can already be done with tablets and this, i believe, does happen in some cases. However, This kind of treatment would require the person to keep taking their medication which, unfortunatly, can't be relied on.[/quote]

Erm, force them to take it!!! :)

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jman316 wrote:
They can give you a tablet these days to switch off your urge for wanting a smoke!!! Maybe something similiar for these animals which switches off all their 'urges'.

It can already be done with tablets and this, i believe, does happen in some cases. However, This kind of treatment would require the person to keep taking their medication which, unfortunatly, can't be relied on.[/quote]

Erm, force them to take it!!! :)[/quote]
That is illegal.

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