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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:42 am 
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They said it was PROHIBITED whilst on hire or available for hire within the boundaries of bath & North East Somerset.
What is the definition of PROHIBITED?


It's not, you can't have one you just can't use it locally, but, you should't need to.

Sorry but it definatly says they are PROHIBITED.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:03 pm 
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They said it was PROHIBITED whilst on hire or available for hire within the boundaries of bath & North East Somerset.
What is the definition of PROHIBITED?


It's not, you can't have one you just can't use it locally, but, you should't need to.

Sorry but it definatly says they are PROHIBITED.


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prohibited whilst on hire or available for hire within the boundaries of Bath & North East Somerset Council
’. I don't see your problem

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:58 pm 
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prohibited whilst on hire or available for hire within the boundaries of Bath & North East Somerset Council
’. I don't see your problem

If it is prohibited whist you are available for hire, you can't use it to find an address within the district even when empty. You can't use it to check the distance so that you can give the customer a price. If, as you say, they wont know if you use it to find an address that you are not familiar with, then the policy is pointless and unenforceable.

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prohibited whilst on hire or available for hire within the boundaries of Bath & North East Somerset Council
’. I don't see your problem

If it is prohibited whist you are available for hire, you can't use it to find an address within the district even when empty. You can't use it to check the distance so that you can give the customer a price. If, as you say, they wont know if you use it to find an address that you are not familiar with, then the policy is pointless and unenforceable.


So what's the problem, clearly they need to get rid of the 'for hire' bit because that is unenforceable but I still think the idea is a sound one, a professional licensed driver should not need a satnav in the area for which they are licensed.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:01 am 
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So what's the problem, clearly they need to get rid of the 'for hire' bit because that is unenforceable but I still think the idea is a sound one, a professional licensed driver should not need a satnav in the area for which they are licensed.

My licensing area covers an area of 186 square miles of small villages and hamlets with just the one town. There are villages in the borough that I have never even heard of let alone know where they are and what streets they have. Only yesterday we had a request to go to one such place which turns out to be a small hamlet on the edge of a bigger village at the very extreme edge of our licensing area. Now you tell me, 1, should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was? 2, Should I have asked the punter to direct me to the place? 3. Put the address in the sat nav and got on with the journey.
Even our council don't expect us to know every little village and hamlet in the borough.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:44 am 
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Think the point is you should have a knowledge of the area you want to work.Theres sat nav on phones so would be hard to enforce.As for the sat navs know the shortest/quickest/best route,take a journey from A to B at diferent times of the day and it will be different,only local knowledge will let you know traffic blackspots ect.There isnt many requirements to be a taxi driver,but surely one must be you know where your going ! :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:14 pm 
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So what's the problem, clearly they need to get rid of the 'for hire' bit because that is unenforceable but I still think the idea is a sound one, a professional licensed driver should not need a satnav in the area for which they are licensed.

My licensing area covers an area of 186 square miles of small villages and hamlets with just the one town. There are villages in the borough that I have never even heard of let alone know where they are and what streets they have. Only yesterday we had a request to go to one such place which turns out to be a small hamlet on the edge of a bigger village at the very extreme edge of our licensing area. Now you tell me, 1, should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was? 2, Should I have asked the punter to direct me to the place? 3. Put the address in the sat nav and got on with the journey.
Even our council don't expect us to know every little village and hamlet in the borough.


How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:23 pm 
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I have got to o along with Grandad on this one.

Apart from London which City/Town/Borough has the intensity of learning all and everything.

A lot in fact an awful lot will depend on the size of the area that you live in - Cardiff has a population of around 310/33000 with new developments springing up and also finding ones that I never ever new about

Quite frankly if I were capable of absorbing all of the streets/roads etc..........then I would be just too clever to be a "Taxi Driver". You will also from time to time hit a brick wall in terms of knowing a street, unfortunately on that day "The" brain cell does not want to work. It is always useful to use against the "Smart Alec" who is adamant that you are taking them the "Taxi Driver Scenic Route", you can visually demonstrate that technology says differently

I very much doubt that Bath City Council will be banning their Police force/Ambulance service from using them! If only the drivers stuck together! We would rule, and not get beaten with a stick every five minutes #-o

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:00 pm 
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Madness...... If anything sat navs should be compulsory

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Well hats of to everyone, let satnav rule and knowledge mean nothing. When you complain about Johnny foreigner not knowing where he's going you will have only yourselves to blame. I personally think it's unprofessional and should only ever be used out of area or very unfamiliar places, oh and number hunting in the dark :lol: It's always been the case that taxi drivers gloat of their knowledge against that of private hire but clearly we have a rise of taxi drivers that are quite happy to admit they prefer the satnav to their own knowledge. As I said earlier it's a little silly to prohibit whilst available for hire and as others have said unenforceable, but, unless you're going out of area with a customer I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the driver to know where they are going. Let the dumbing down of our trade begin :wink:

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If all I needed was a white coat and an ipad, I could be a doctor :lol:

That is why we are a trade and not a profession.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:27 pm 
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should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was?


Frankly, you should know where all the major settlements are and where their streets are. You should also know where the vast majority of minor settlements are located, although the location of their streets is probably unimportant.

BTW 186 square miles is tiny compared to some of the licensing areas around here and a postcode can cover several square miles.

There is no point complaining about every man and his dog becoming taxi drivers when this trade seems intent on letting just exactly that happen.

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How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.

A to Z maps.

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How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.

A to Z maps.


Yeah that's how most of us did and things stick in the memory more when using maps as opposed to satnav. Satnavs make the brain lazy and by all accounts the driver too.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:01 pm 
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So what's the problem, clearly they need to get rid of the 'for hire' bit because that is unenforceable but I still think the idea is a sound one, a professional licensed driver should not need a satnav in the area for which they are licensed.

My licensing area covers an area of 186 square miles of small villages and hamlets with just the one town. There are villages in the borough that I have never even heard of let alone know where they are and what streets they have. Only yesterday we had a request to go to one such place which turns out to be a small hamlet on the edge of a bigger village at the very extreme edge of our licensing area. Now you tell me, 1, should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was? 2, Should I have asked the punter to direct me to the place? 3. Put the address in the sat nav and got on with the journey.
Even our council don't expect us to know every little village and hamlet in the borough.


How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.

I wasn't a taxi driver then!

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