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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:20 am 
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So what's the problem, clearly they need to get rid of the 'for hire' bit because that is unenforceable but I still think the idea is a sound one, a professional licensed driver should not need a satnav in the area for which they are licensed.

My licensing area covers an area of 186 square miles of small villages and hamlets with just the one town. There are villages in the borough that I have never even heard of let alone know where they are and what streets they have. Only yesterday we had a request to go to one such place which turns out to be a small hamlet on the edge of a bigger village at the very extreme edge of our licensing area. Now you tell me, 1, should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was? 2, Should I have asked the punter to direct me to the place? 3. Put the address in the sat nav and got on with the journey.
Even our council don't expect us to know every little village and hamlet in the borough.


How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.


Simple..gave SWMBO the map and then turned the opposite way to that which she told me to turn....but not during fare paying runs though #-o
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How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.


He followed the bloke with the red flag :lol:

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gusmac wrote:
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should I have known exactly where in the 186 square miles of our borough, this place was?


Frankly, you should know where all the major settlements are and where their streets are. You should also know where the vast majority of minor settlements are located, although the location of their streets is probably unimportant.

BTW 186 square miles is tiny compared to some of the licensing areas around here and a postcode can cover several square miles.

There is no point complaining about every man and his dog becoming taxi drivers when this trade seems intent on letting just exactly that happen.

I do know most of the places in our borough and to be honest a hell of a lot of the places in the surrounding boroughs.
I have never complained about anyone becoming a taxi driver.

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How did you ever get around before satnav ffs.

A to Z maps.


Maps should be banned too. Although my A to Z says "Here be Dragons" on it, it's that old.

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Toots, with a morbid fear of technology in the form of satnav, has clearly never been asked to take someone to a non existent address. I was recently asked by a foreign student to take them to Newland Avenue. There's a Newland, and there's also The Avenue. but he definitely wanted Newland Avenue. Which after using my satnav, I discovered is in Hull. Which was nice for me. Satnav is also useful to turn a phone hands free with Bluetooth, and also tells a driver the speed limit on the road they are on, and the location of cash machines, aka speed cameras.

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Personnaly I can't see the difference between picking up A-Z, finding street in index, turning to page, finding the square address is in, squinting to find street and then figuring out route or just typing it into a sat-nav and finding it straight away.

There is a difference though in just using a sat-nav to locate the address and then using knowledge to get there and using one to tell you which route to take. But then again how often do you have to stop and re-check the A-Z to find an unfamiliar street ? All a sat-nav is is a digital version of an A-Z.
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Personnaly I can't see the difference between picking up A-Z, finding street in index, turning to page, finding the square address is in, squinting to find street and then figuring out route or just typing it into a sat-nav and finding it straight away.

There is a difference though in just using a sat-nav to locate the address and then using knowledge to get there and using one to tell you which route to take. But then again how often do you have to stop and re-check the A-Z to find an unfamiliar street ? All a sat-nav is is a digital version of an A-Z.


That's as maybe but you don't learn from a satnav like you do from a map and the brain gets lazy and doesn't remember routes as well. What's wrong with asking the customer, explain you can get so far but not so sure exactly, the customer will always point out things that help you to remember for next time a satnav won't.

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I love the image of a driver engaging his taximeter and then putting a postcode or address in a sat nav from a cab rank - its really so professional - and to top it all the driver usually expects a tip at the end of the journey.........in similar terms its a little like going into a restaurant and looking at the menu - when faced with a waiter holding a cookery book :lol:

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I love the image of a driver engaging his taximeter and then putting a postcode or address in a sat nav from a cab rank - its really so professional - and to top it all the driver usually expects a tip at the end of the journey.........in similar terms its a little like going into a restaurant and looking at the menu - when faced with a waiter holding a cookery book :lol:


It's kinda like getting into one of these

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theres more than meets the eye with this story, the council minutes are instructive!

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theres more than meets the eye with this story, the council minutes are instructive!


Please explain :?

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I was in Bath over the weekend and my Taxi driver was using a CD Slot Mount to hold his GPS a very ingenious British idea.

http://www.cdslotmount.com


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I was in Bath over the weekend and my Taxi driver was using a CD Slot Mount to hold his GPS a very ingenious British idea.

http://www.cdslotmount.com


Great, the driver now has a clear view of the direction he doesn't know he's going :roll:

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I was in Bath over the weekend and my Taxi driver was using a CD Slot Mount to hold his GPS a very ingenious British idea.

http://www.cdslotmount.com


Nothing like a shameless plug............. :badgrin:

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Please explain :?


the entire story is screwed up and a wild exaggeration.

the council has consulted the local trade for over 6 months about a raft of updated regulations - http://democracy.bathnes.gov.uk/ieListD ... 3652&Ver=4

the trade has hardly responded to it - this aside, the new regulations got passed on thursday - one respondant actually agreed that sat nav should not be used on local journeys.

the respondant said -


Earlier in my letter I expressed my agreement that Sat Nav system should not be employed by drivers working locally, I do not use one when hackney driving locally. I do however use one some of the time in my executive car, not as I do not know the way but to benefit from the traffic updates; will is still be acceptable to use one on longer journeys either starting or terminating locally?



the council proposed -

In regard to Sat Navs it is not the intention of the Council to prohibit the use of Sat Navs for journeys that terminate outside of the Councils area, merely to restrict the use of Sat Navs for local traditional “HC and PH” jobs. Sat Navs do not look after the interests of the paying customer.

if you ask me, a council wouldnt come up with this idea on their own and it sounds like it was trade motivated.


I dont really need point out my view that they are thick as pigsh*t.

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