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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:10 pm 
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So, if there's no way of doing a CRB check for an EU national, then in my view we, as UK citizens, are being checked while others are not! Discrimination?

Of course there is.

They don't all live in caves outside of the UK. :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:56 pm 
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I bought up a similar matter with the authorities a year or so ago alleging the speeding laws discriminated against drivers with UK licence, as they had penalty points AND a fine, whereas any foreign driver just gets a fine. so far an admission of yes well...

Further to the above I have found out exactly what happens.

There should be no internationally licensed drivers driving taxi/PH as they are only allowed for a year, and the law states you must have held a full DVLA/EU license for at least a year.

In respect of EU driving licenses, drivers can work without taking the DVLA license. If they break the law then they will be fined via the fixed penalty notices we all see and love.

However points cannot be added to their EU license, therefore a new file is kept by the DVLA and the points are recorded there.

So in effect the way the DVLA deals with EU drivers is exactly the same way as they deal with GB drivers.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:20 am 
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Devon taxi driver Denise Said could lose her licence over a flag row

Teignbridge District Council has told Denise Said she is breaking equality laws.

For more than 12 years Denise Said has been taxi driving and for the past year she has proudly advertised the fact that she is a local driver with local knowledge.

But all that is not under threat.

In a letter she was told her stickers breach equality rules.

I seriously couldn't believe it, if you can't fly your own country's flag in your own country then there's something wrong.

Teignbridge District Council proudly waving its own flag wants the flag removed after a complaint from a rival firm mainly employing Eastern European drivers.

In a statement it said:


In this instance the English flag sign combined with the words, "local driver", could put other people whop don't share either of those characteristics at a disadvantage in their day to day life.

Councillor Alan Connett Teignbridge Council, opposition said:


I wonder what would happen if they put those words on the Devon flag, or indeed Teignbridge's own flag, taxi drivers ought to be able to say what it is that customers are using them for.

With a threat of losing her own taxi driving permit next Feburary, she has no plans to remove the sticker just yet but equally she wants to avoid the cost of a legal wrangle to the right to advertise that she's a local driver.

http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/201 ... -flag-row/

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:05 am 
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Councils get better and better.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:35 am 
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Taxi driver to appeal in St George's sticker row



A Newton Abbot taxi driver banned from having a St George's Cross sticker in her cab is taking her case to appeal.

Patriotic Denise Said, 56, has three English flag signs stuck on the doors and boot of her vehicle with the words 'Local Cabbie'.

But after one complaint from a rival cab firm she was stunned to receive a letter from the council accusing her of breaching equality laws.

Teignbridge Council said that residents, visitors and other drivers who were not 'local' could be put at a disadvantage by the stickers.

The case to retain the signage is due to go before Teignbridge Council's regulatory and appeal's committee tomorrow.

The committee can decide to grant permission for the signs or asked they are removed within 72 hours.

The authority says that adverts must adhere to its policy to promote equality irrespective of race, sex, disability, age, sexual orientation or religion.

Ms Said said in a letter to go before the committee: "I believe that my signs do not fail to comply with the licensing policy [and] I also do not believe my sign is likely to cause widespread or serious offence."

In the past year, the authority has received 14 applications from EU nationals to be licensed as drivers in the district.

Documents due to go before the committee state that the authority liaised with a foreign embassy and consulate, the Department of Transport and other licensing authorities to formulate stringent medical and criminal conviction checks for foreign nationals.


Read more: http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/T ... z2ldmCd2Ph

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:01 am 
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Taxi driver to appeal in St George's sticker row



A Newton Abbot taxi driver banned from having a St George's Cross sticker in her cab is taking her case to appeal.

Patriotic Denise Said, 56, has three English flag signs stuck on the doors and boot of her vehicle with the words 'Local Cabbie'.

But after one complaint from a rival cab firm she was stunned to receive a letter from the council accusing her of breaching equality laws.

Teignbridge Council said that residents, visitors and other drivers who were not 'local' could be put at a disadvantage by the stickers.

The case to retain the signage is due to go before Teignbridge Council's regulatory and appeal's committee tomorrow.

The committee can decide to grant permission for the signs or asked they are removed within 72 hours.

The authority says that adverts must adhere to its policy to promote equality irrespective of race, sex, disability, age, sexual orientation or religion.

Ms Said said in a letter to go before the committee: "I believe that my signs do not fail to comply with the licensing policy [and] I also do not believe my sign is likely to cause widespread or serious offence."

In the past year, the authority has received 14 applications from EU nationals to be licensed as drivers in the district.

Documents due to go before the committee state that the authority liaised with a foreign embassy and consulate, the Department of Transport and other licensing authorities to formulate stringent medical and criminal conviction checks for foreign nationals.


Read more: http://www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/T ... z2ldmCd2Ph



So she should take it to appeal. These mamby pamby Council lot will bow down to anything.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:28 pm 
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Tel them to go f##k there pensions, as it is just a sticker letting everyone know they carry a First Aid Kit. #-o


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Taxi driver vows to fight on after losing appeal in St George's flag row

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A NEWTON Abbot cabbie has vowed to fight on after being told to remove 'local' St George's Cross stickers from her taxi.

Patriotic Denise Said, 56, said she will take her case to the magistrates court after an appeals committee ruled that she has to remove the stickers by Friday or have her licence suspended.

But Denise, who runs Lady D Taxis, said she will not remove the stickers.

She said after the hearing: "They are staying on the car and I will do my best to appeal the decision.

"They are not derogatory and do not offend anyone."

The appeal to retain the signage was heard at Teignbridge Council's regulatory and appeals committee on Monday morning.

The committee deliberated for 50 minutes and decided that the signs did not meet requirements of its Hackney Carriage and Private Hire licensing policy or the Equality Act 2010.

Rod Peers, speaking on behalf of Mrs Said told the committee that the stickers were not discriminatory and had nothing to do with race or nationality.

He said: "It does not offend anybody or exclude anybody but merely gives the indication that the driver is from the locality.

"It is easy to know if the driver knows the local area if you have local written on the cab."

Mrs Said said that she has driven a cab for 12 years and displayed the specially-made stickers for the past two years after being asked by passengers if she was local.

Cllr Klinkenberg said: "Anyone who works, sets up a business or is employee as a taxi driver would obviously be living here and they would , I would assume, would drive the area and get to know it so they could also be considered as local drivers irrespective of where they had come from."

Cllr Beryl Austen asked Mrs Said: "Anyone resident locally whether English or not could display the sign?"

Mrs Said answered: "I don't see why not."

Licensing officer Hayley Carpenter said that it was the combination of the flag and the words that caused difficulty.

She said: "This is not about the St George's Flag it is about the combination of the flag with the words 'local driver' across it that could be saying 'British Driver'.

In the past year, the authority has received 14 applications from EU nationals to be licensed as drivers in the district.

The authority changed its policy in January this year to ensure EU nationals are subject to criminal conviction checks.


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They are staying on the car and I will do my best to appeal the decision.


This is going to cost the lady thousands if she pushes it - and I cant see her winning.

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Crap decision.

I hope she wins in court. =D>

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How would the word "Local" pan out, if she dropped off in another Borough, and then........a punter who was not local to that Borough tried to hire her? She would not be "Local"!

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:07 pm 
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Documents due to go before the committee state that the authority liaised with a foreign embassy and consulate, the Department of Transport and other licensing authorities to formulate stringent medical and criminal conviction checks for foreign nationals.

WTF has that got to do with stickers on doors? :-k

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WTF has that got to do with stickers on doors? :-k


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They are staying on the car and I will do my best to appeal the decision.


This is going to cost the lady thousands if she pushes it - and I cant see her winning.

I think you are right.

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Crap decision.

I hope she wins in court. =D>


I heard the SNP are going to stop the use of the Saltire on Scotlands Taxis and PH for fear it might upset anyone south of Berwick or furriners from across Eurobland. :roll:

Seriously...Why should they have the right to appease a few at the cost of Englands English majority. If you don't like the use of St George's Cross or flag then don't move to a land that has it as it's national flag..Hell, he's the Patron Saint of the place #-o


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