Taxi Driver Online

I like you Tangers. You are a prime example of what social conditioning can do to a person. Have you never thought to question the norms you were brought up to believe?

Don't answer that it's a silly question, you would have to know what I was talking about.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Thank you for that Townhall. The fact is, taxi drivers have come to expect less from society as a whole, even to the point, they will defend being sh*t on.

Take Tangers, for instance, he doesn't even think about educating the public to respect the rights of taxi drivers. Getting your lights punched out is the taxi driver's fault. It's just part and parcel of the job.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

I think both, depending on what the issue is.

Drivers need to have a duty of care on themselves, but that should be common sense, and councils have a duty of care to ensure their licensing conditions protect both them and punters.

Also, if I had my way, all non owners would have a duty of care which would ensure they fit a proper CCTV system in their licensed vehicles.

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IDFIMH

Consider this, the army has a duty of care to its soldiers. They must be provided with the correct training and equipment in proper working order, to do the job, especially in theater. Oh and the MOD recently lost a case in the European courts stating as much.

I think the council has a duty of care, to the taxi driver, as it is they who licence the driver and vehicle which makes them responsible. Under the circumstances, if I was old Ken, I would be consulting with a lawyer to see where I stand. Yes, he got out of the vehicle but had the Taxi been equipped with CCTV. He might have had some protection. Oh and don't forget the CCTV, in council buildings and Buses. It's not only there to protect people and prevent crime but to assist in prosecutions.

Where was the protection for this old taxi driver, did they even consider it?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Oh and I wouldn't let my working class mindset become a barrier to my own safety. Tangers, probably won't see it that way, but then again, it was old Ken's fault. He got his head kicked in.

Isn't that right Tangers...

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

the whole top and bottom of the taxi trade is that they will never ever stick together. This is what the councils,office owners and authority,s rely on. And untill we all (hackneys,private hire and booking staff) stand together and get proper representation then we will always be a 2nd class micky mouse proffesion. Unite get legal advice and demand what WE want And not the few scraps we get thrown to us . Untill that day comes thing like what happend to ken will just get worse and no authority will help the trade because they all know that UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL

You're right. But how do you release people from a mindset that makes them dependent on the very system that turns them into slaves and second-class citizens? They have little expectation of things being different.

In fact, they would rather defend the system and blame the victim for the injustices perpetrated against them. In other words, they are helpless to help-themselves.

Ask Tangers, he'll tell you?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Old Ken gets his head kicked in, and Tangers thinks it was his fault for getting out of his taxi. As a matter of curiosity, who agrees with Tangers?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

I think in the cold light of day getting out of the cab isn't advisable, especially when you are that age.

CCTV is what he should have had. It might not have saved him from the runners, so it might have led to those mushes getting caught, and saved him a beating.

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any more

oh and you ve been drinking too much again as ive never said it was his fault.

So an old aged pensioner, mugged on the street or robbed of his life savings in his home, is an outrage. But the same doesn't apply to a 77-year-old man driving a taxi because he got out of his vehicle? We are talking about society's most vulnerable people, are we not, should it really matter where these atrocities take place or in what circumstances. (This was a rhetorical question.)

Surely, all one should focus on is the threat these scumbags pose to old people and how they must be stopped from doing anything like this again?

Ken did something which in hindsight maybe wasn’t a smart move but here’s a news flash, old people make mistakes. And as his fellow taxi drivers, it is up to you, to make sure it never happens again, to anyone.

I am pretty disgusted that some on this forum see what happened to Ken as being his responsibility for getting out of his taxi. (Tangers)

Sussex, I was seriously disappointed upon reading your comment. I honestly expected better from you. Don't you think that "in the cold light of day" Ken knows he's made a mistake?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

Its not kens fault. its the whole taxi trades fault for allowing ourselves to be turned into mice and sit nice and quiet while the ones in charge of our self employed status decide what scraps of power they allow us to think we have. FFs everyone stand together get these toerags caught. As ive said before no other profession would stand for it yet we do.We should all down tools organise ourselves and get what WE want. We cant even give ourselves a pay rise without having to ask other people first. Would E.ON or N.Power ask And finaly if ken was called Stanley Johnson (father of boris) it would be different and theyd be caught by now.

Oh and to help you understand Ken’s situation even further. We all get to a point in our lives where our judgement becomes a little compromised or seriously flawed depending on the situation. It then falls to others to take up the slack. Now Ken might be perfectly capable of driving a taxi from A to B but dealing with young thugs, while trying to keep safe is a different matter.

Take an old granny, for example, who loses all her life savings to a conman because she let him into her house. Was it her fault, she lost all of her money because she opened the door?

Personally, I fail to see the difference between the two, and I wouldn’t dream of bringing up the fact she opened the door, as a means of proportioning blame or responsibility to an old age pensioner.

You would all do well to remember Ken’s plight. It might be you sooner than you think.

Are you reading this Tangers????????????????

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"