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 Post subject: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 6:04 am 
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I went to terminal 1 at Manchester last night to pick up a passenger. I was only there for a very short time but did I see it right? Outside the terminal was a private hire booking office advertising immediate hire to customers that made a booking through this office, nothing to much wrong providing the booking is made. and right next to it was another booth advertising the Hackney rank saying no need to book, again nothing wrong with this. It just seemed strange. I mean I could see the row of Hackney cabs but unless the large number of silver Mercs were the private hire cars, I couldn't see where they were. Also, I couldn't see the name of the private hire firm offering the booked car service.
I assume the Mercs were doing the same as at Birmingham, picking up the Emirates customers without a license.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:44 am 
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grandad wrote:
I went to terminal 1 at Manchester last night to pick up a passenger. I was only there for a very short time but did I see it right? Outside the terminal was a private hire booking office advertising immediate hire to customers that made a booking through this office, nothing to much wrong providing the booking is made. and right next to it was another booth advertising the Hackney rank saying no need to book, again nothing wrong with this. It just seemed strange. I mean I could see the row of Hackney cabs but unless the large number of silver Mercs were the private hire cars, I couldn't see where they were. Also, I couldn't see the name of the private hire firm offering the booked car service.
I assume the Mercs were doing the same as at Birmingham, picking up the Emirates customers without a license.


you saw correctly - its a joke at Manchester airport.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:30 am 
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Do you not remember that [edited by admin] from arrow cars that kept posting on here trying to wind people up.


http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16534&hilit=arrow


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:42 am 
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Grandad wrote:
I couldn't see where they were


You're not supposed to, at least they couldn't collared for touting :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:51 am 
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toots wrote:
Grandad wrote:
I couldn't see where they were


You're not supposed to, at least they couldn't collared for touting :wink:

I know, but at EMA they are parked right outside the door in full view.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:26 am 
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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
Grandad wrote:
I couldn't see where they were


You're not supposed to, at least they couldn't collared for touting :wink:

I know, but at EMA they are parked right outside the door in full view.

Are the drivers sitting in the vehicles?

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:01 am 
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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
Grandad wrote:
I couldn't see where they were


You're not supposed to, at least they couldn't collared for touting :wink:

I know, but at EMA they are parked right outside the door in full view.


Private land isn't it?


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:58 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:

Private land isn't it?

That would take us back to the "when does private land become public land" debate.
It is argued that because the public have full access to the land at all times, it is considered not to be private. Can the police issue you with a ticket on private land? I believe that they do at airports although I have not yet tested this out.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:05 pm 
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grandad wrote:
... Can the police issue you with a ticket on private land? I believe that they do at airports although I have not yet tested this out.

I had a little knock outside Asda on a car park and dispute with other driver, police refused to come cos "they have nothing to do on private land".


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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:51 pm 
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o-marek wrote:
grandad wrote:
... Can the police issue you with a ticket on private land? I believe that they do at airports although I have not yet tested this out.

I had a little knock outside Asda on a car park and dispute with other driver, police refused to come cos "they have nothing to do on private land".

That may be what they tell you but if you had a fight with the other driver, then it would change.

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:44 pm 
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grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
Grandad wrote:
I couldn't see where they were


You're not supposed to, at least they couldn't collared for touting :wink:

I know, but at EMA they are parked right outside the door in full view.


That's EMA, different airport different rules :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Manchester airport
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 pm 
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The cars are usually RANKED up adjacent to the taxi rank and the office with drivers sat in them, (contra to both Milton Keynes Borough Council v Barry and Gilbert v McKay) the private land argument does not come into it due to the Greater Manchester Act 1981 section 166 para 5

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"For the purposes of the provisions of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 relating to hackney carriages, "street" shall include any air or sea terminus, and the approaches thereto, any car park, any hotel forecourt and any unenclosed land within six metres of a street .."

Manchester City Council Licensing Officers have their own definition of plying for hire which goes something like this "A private hire vehicle cannot be ranked up because only a hackney carriage can lawfully rank up, the cars are not plying for hire unless they accept a booking that is not through their operator" (contra to Gateshead v Henderson 2012) this definition also bizarrely means that a hackney carriage is not plying for hire until he accepts a fare, meaning that there can be no offence of refusing a fare or a failure to proceed to a rank.

But this is Manchester!


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