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 Post subject: Re: TDO Censorship!!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:20 pm 
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You are like a couple of retards let loose with a computer keyboard. FFS, try and up your game... #-o #-o #-o #-o

You do realise that's what most people here think about you? Surely you can't be that oblivious. 9 pages in and you still won't let this thread die. I guess having the last word makes you feel like a big man.

This thread has been dead since page 2. Let it go.


I'm not the one believing in crackpot fairy stories and praying to some man in the sky. So what you think about me, in my book, really doesn't count. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Now do yourself a favour and try thinking for yourself, instead of believing in some joker, you call an Imam, with his tales of the supernatural. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and just so you know. He does not know the mind of your "God" and he's not acting under his instruction. It's all bullshi* #-o #-o #-o

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jman316 wrote:
You are like a couple of retards let loose with a computer keyboard. FFS, try and up your game... #-o #-o #-o #-o

You do realise that's what most people here think about you? Surely you can't be that oblivious. 9 pages in and you still won't let this thread die. I guess having the last word makes you feel like a big man.

This thread has been dead since page 2. Let it go.


I'm not the one believing in crackpot fairy stories and praying to some man in the sky. So what you think about me, in my book, really doesn't count. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Now do yourself a favour and try thinking for yourself, instead of believing in some joker, you call an Imam, with his tales of the supernatural. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and just so you know. He does not know the mind of your "God" and he's not acting under his instruction. It's all bullshi* #-o #-o #-o



There you go again.... Lol

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Okay, this is a debating forum, and you want to debate, where did Winston get it wrong?



How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the
Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan
law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the
faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion
paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde
force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant
and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled,
the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

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I've started worshipping Dynamo - I'm surprised no-ones realised he's the second coming !

I've seen him walk on water, float in mid air, fly unaided, pass through solid objects and turn water into wine (and lager, whisky, beer). There's only one other I remember being able to perform such miracles (ok except for Paul Daniels, David Copperfield etc.) :wink:


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sasha wrote:
I've started worshipping Dynamo - I'm surprised no-ones realised he's the second coming !

I've seen him walk on water, float in mid air, fly unaided, pass through solid objects and turn water into wine (and lager, whisky, beer). There's only one other I remember being able to perform such miracles (ok except for Paul Daniels, David Copperfield etc.) :wink:


Sasha, I'm with you. =D> =D> =D>

How about you Jman316, the Prophet Muhammad has got nothing on Dynamo, this guy is the dog's bollocks. =D> =D> =D> =D>
Mind you, Troy and David Blane are not to be sniffed at. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh and this is real magic and miracles. I've seen it with my own eyes. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Skull wrote:
sasha wrote:
I've started worshipping Dynamo - I'm surprised no-ones realised he's the second coming !

I've seen him walk on water, float in mid air, fly unaided, pass through solid objects and turn water into wine (and lager, whisky, beer). There's only one other I remember being able to perform such miracles (ok except for Paul Daniels, David Copperfield etc.) :wink:


Sasha, I'm with you. =D> =D> =D>

How about you Jman316, the Prophet Muhammad has got nothing on Dynamo, this guy is the dog's bollocks. =D> =D> =D> =D>
Mind you, Troy and David Blane are not to be sniffed at. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh and this is real magic and miracles. I've seen it with my own eyes. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Dynamo is freakin awesome! :)

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Skull wrote:
Okay, this is a debating forum, and you want to debate, where did Winston get it wrong?



How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!

Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the
Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan
law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the
faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion
paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde
force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant
and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled,
the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”





So what about Enoch if Winston was so right?

April 20 1968


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It almost passes belief that at this moment 20 or 30 additional immigrant children are arriving from overseas in Wolverhampton alone every week - and that means 15 or 20 additional families a decade or two hence. Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependants, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancés whom they have never seen.

Let no one suppose that the flow of dependants will automatically tail off. On the contrary, even at the present admission rate of only 5,000 a year by voucher, there is sufficient for a further 25,000 dependants per annum ad infinitum, (IN FACT Net UK migration increased to 212,000 in the year to September 2013) without taking into account the huge reservoir of existing relations in this country - and I am making no allowance at all for fraudulent entry. In these circumstances nothing will suffice but that the total inflow for settlement should be reduced at once to negligible proportions, and that the necessary legislative and administrative measures be taken without delay.

I stress the words "for settlement." This has nothing to do with the entry of Commonwealth citizens, any more than of aliens, into this country, for the purposes of study or of improving their qualifications, like (for instance) the Commonwealth doctors who, to the advantage of their own countries, have enabled our hospital service to be expanded faster than would otherwise have been possible. They are not, and never have been, immigrants.

I turn to re-emigration. If all immigration ended tomorrow, the rate of growth of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population would be substantially reduced, but the prospective size of this element in the population would still leave the basic character of the national danger unaffected. This can only be tackled while a considerable proportion of the total still comprises persons who entered this country during the last ten years or so.

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I've really not got an opinion on Enoch Powell, immigration and its effects. As it doesn't concern me in the slightest. :?


However, in my opinion, Winston Churchill is correct on his critique of Mohammedanism, in fact. Winston's comments are every bit as relevant today, as when he first wrote it, maybe even more so. :-|


Anecdotal I know, but relevant nevertheless. :-|

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hools.html

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I've really not got an opinion on Enoch Powell, immigration and its effects. As it doesn't concern me in the slightest. :?


However, in my opinion, Winston Churchill is correct on his critique of Mohammedanism, in fact. Winston's comments are every bit as relevant today, as when he first wrote it, maybe even more so. :-|


Anecdotal I know, but relevant nevertheless. :-|

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hools.html


Ah the Daily **** ...........................maybe theyve got something right at last...................was a school governor for many years and yes for sure some of the MUSLIM cranks are bleedin dangerous for sure.........................integration is not ...............................shoving your views down our necks.................believing we will live by your SHARIAH LAW..................................WE WONT ......................ITS CRAP .......................NO BOOZE FFS...............NO BACON SARNIES..........YER ALL MAD =D> =D> =D> =D>

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Oh and the last thing we need in this country, is FAITH Schools of any description, least of all Islamic. In fact, teaching children, this man in the sky nonsense, at any age, is tantamount to child abuse. Science, YES, FAITH, NO. =D> =D> =D> =D>

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Skull wrote:
I've really not got an opinion on Enoch Powell, immigration and its effects. As it doesn't concern me in the slightest. :?


However, in my opinion, Winston Churchill is correct on his critique of Mohammedanism, in fact. Winston's comments are every bit as relevant today, as when he first wrote it, maybe even more so. :-|


Anecdotal I know, but relevant nevertheless. :-|

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hools.html


Churchill's view would be classed as Racist, Islamaphobic now. Just because it was "right" then doesnt mean its right now!

And sorry dude, i got to answer this "science" BS you keep peddling. Muslim scientists were meddling with science when your ancestors and (probably mine too, indian subcontinent) were probably still walking around with [edited by admin] stuck to their a££$££. No offence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%AB_R ... %ABn%C4%AB
just one of many examples...

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Skull wrote:
I've really not got an opinion on Enoch Powell, immigration and its effects. As it doesn't concern me in the slightest. :?


However, in my opinion, Winston Churchill is correct on his critique of Mohammedanism, in fact. Winston's comments are every bit as relevant today, as when he first wrote it, maybe even more so. :-|


Anecdotal I know, but relevant nevertheless. :-|

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hools.html


Churchill's view would be classed as Racist, Islamaphobic now. Just because it was "right" then doesnt mean its right now!

And sorry dude, i got to answer this "science" BS you keep peddling. Muslim scientists were meddling with science when your ancestors and (probably mine too, indian subcontinent) were probably still walking around with [edited by admin] stuck to their a££$££. No offence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%AB_R ... %ABn%C4%AB
just one of many examples...


You do realise that Science is a system of validation, and doesn't require faith of any kind. It does not rely on the interpretation of scriptures, stories, miracles and magic. The highest position held in science, is that of a theory, supported by testable evidence, which is subjected to peer review, repeatedly, from scientists all over the world.

Oh and I am no scientist, but it's the only system which requires testable evidence for validation.

FAITH, is grand claims of miracles and magic, which require no proof whatsoever for it to be believed. In fact, it's all just bullshi*. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and if there really is a "God" out there, science would be the first to discover it, but unfortunately for people like you, there is no proof of "God" and no evidence to substantiate such a theory or even for it to be tested.

As I said before, religious beliefs are geographical in nature. It's just a process of indoctrination depending on where you were brought up and to what family.

It's all superstitious nonsense. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re ... traditions

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Churchill's view would be classed as Racist, Islamaphobic now. Just because it was "right" then doesnt mean its right now!


Unfortunately, if the evidence appears to support Churchill's view, and I believe it does, it means the last hundred years, is validation of Churchill's position on Mohammedanism. :-|

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Okay Jman316, answer me this: do you believe that your Imam knows the mind of God, or is acting on his instruction, when teaching Muslims the written word of the Koran or giving an interpretation of its scriptures? :-|


A simple yes or no will suffice.... #-o


Oh and Jman316, if yes, where's your proof? #-o

Explain to everyone how you know it to be true? #-o

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You do realise that Science is a system of validation, and doesn't require faith of any kind. It does not rely on the interpretation of scriptures, stories, miracles and magic. The highest position held in science, is that
of a theory, supported by testable evidence, which is subjected to peer review, repeatedly, from scientists all over the world.

Oh and I am no scientist, but it's the only system which requires testable evidence for validation.

FAITH, is grand claims of miracles and magic, which require no proof whatsoever for it to be believed. In fact, it's all just bullshi*. #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and if there really is a "God" out there, science would be the first to discover it, but unfortunately for people like you, there is no proof of "God" and no evidence to substantiate such a theory or even for it to be tested.

As I said before, religious beliefs are geographical in nature. It's just a process of indoctrination depending on where you were brought up and to what family.

It's all superstitious nonsense. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_re ... traditions[/quote]

Exactly my point. Lack of faith hasn't harmed science neither has the presence of it.

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