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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:18 am 
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Umm no skull, why don't you enlighten us? You're like a stuck record repeating the same old tripe again and again and again and again.

Spit the dummy out and just say what you want to say, simples.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:27 am 
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Umm no skull, why don't you enlighten us? You're like a stuck record repeating the same old tripe again and again and again and again.

Spit the dummy out and just say what you want to say, simples.


Let me get this right. :shock: You want me to tell you, what you were thinking, when you read my post? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're the one making the assertion that I was implying something, so let's have it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

What's wrong Ums, running away from the question...again? #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:04 am 
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The answer should be somewhere in the crime statistics, and it probably is, but I don't think the answer is being made available. I'm not sure but...


Stop talking in riddles, what are you the riddler? Have the courage of your convictions and spit the answer out!!


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:16 am 
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Riddles? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Google: Rape and religion UK :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


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Let's not beat about the bush, everyone knows exactly what you are implying, just because these scummy type do this kind of thing doesn't mean that people like you should use it as an excuse to peddle your propaganda.

These guys are vile and deserve to be dealt with according to the law of the land and then meet LEroy.


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Let's be quite clear, rape and religion is a general search term and could apply to any religious grouping.

Oh and that's the funny thing about me ums. Nothing is off the table when it comes to debating. And if you really think about it, it should be the same for you... :shock:


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Oh and Ums, why don't you tell me, exactly, what I am implying by googling Rape and Religion???????????????



Did you Google Rape and Religion and what did you find? :-|

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:25 am 
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Perhaps you should ask Google, what they are implying by their search results, unless of course, it is you, who is doing the implying? #-o

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:37 am 
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The answer should be somewhere in the crime statistics, and it probably is, but I don't think the answer is being made available. :shock: I'm not sure but... :shock:


The question was asked and the vast majority of the forces answered the question regarding the number of sexual assaults involving taxis and private hire within their authority. The thing they didn't do was differentiate between the two sides of the trade.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... d_rapes_38 this is a link to one such FOI request I'm sure the rest can be found from that link

    Constabulary Offences Number of Licensed Vehicles (2011)
    Avon and Somerset Constabulary ICO 4189
    Bedfordshire Police 9 2340
    Cambridgeshire Constabulary 2 2573
    Cheshire Constabulary[3] 9 3095
    City of London Police (not shown) 0 Same as Metropolitan Police area
    Cleveland Police 38 2082
    Cumbria Constabulary 1 1381
    Derbyshire Constabulary 1 3146 103
    Devon and Cornwall Police 10 4023
    Dorset Police ICO 1831
    Durham Constabulary 2 1647
    Essex Police ICO 5212
    Gloucestershire Constabulary 8 1372
    Greater Manchester Police 109 11892
    Hampshire Constabulary ICO 5565
    Hertfordshire Constabulary 9 3785
    Humberside Police 8 3019
    Kent Police 2 4231
    Lancashire Constabulary[3] 11 5274
    Leicestershire Constabulary 17 2546
    Lincolnshire Police 2 1645
    Merseyside Police 22 8919
    Metropolitan Police 111 75733
    Norfolk Constabulary 4 2062
    Northamptonshire Police 1 1734
    Northumbria Police 1 6480
    North Yorkshire Police 3 2167
    Nottinghamshire Police 15 3042
    South Yorkshire Police ICO 4297
    Staffordshire Police[4] ICO 3058
    Suffolk Constabulary 2 1715
    Surrey Police 3 3844 104

    Sussex Police 3 5106
    Thames Valley Police ICO 7805
    Warwickshire Police 0 1093
    West Mercia Police[4] 14 2697
    West Midlands Police 58 12344
    West Yorkshire Police

    11645
    Wiltshire Police 5 1847
    Dyfed-Powys Police (Heddlu Dyfed
    Powys) 5 1213
    Gwent Police (Heddlu Gwent) 13 1654
    North Wales Police (Heddlu Gogledd
    Cymru) 6 1900
    South Wales Police (Heddlu De Cymru) 13 4743
    Total 517 235946

Source: Mr. Les Reid, Freedom of Information requests July 2012

Figures as of Sunday 9th September 2012
‘ICO’ denotes the Constabulary has been reported to the Information Commissioner

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:47 am 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCQ9ZWfCuQ

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:50 am 
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toots wrote:
Skull wrote:
The answer should be somewhere in the crime statistics, and it probably is, but I don't think the answer is being made available. :shock: I'm not sure but... :shock:


The question was asked and the vast majority of the forces answered the question regarding the number of sexual assaults involving taxis and private hire within their authority. The thing they didn't do was differentiate between the two sides of the trade.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... d_rapes_38 this is a link to one such FOI request I'm sure the rest can be found from that link

    Constabulary Offences Number of Licensed Vehicles (2011)
    Avon and Somerset Constabulary ICO 4189
    Bedfordshire Police 9 2340
    Cambridgeshire Constabulary 2 2573
    Cheshire Constabulary[3] 9 3095
    City of London Police (not shown) 0 Same as Metropolitan Police area
    Cleveland Police 38 2082
    Cumbria Constabulary 1 1381
    Derbyshire Constabulary 1 3146 103
    Devon and Cornwall Police 10 4023
    Dorset Police ICO 1831
    Durham Constabulary 2 1647
    Essex Police ICO 5212
    Gloucestershire Constabulary 8 1372
    Greater Manchester Police 109 11892
    Hampshire Constabulary ICO 5565
    Hertfordshire Constabulary 9 3785
    Humberside Police 8 3019
    Kent Police 2 4231
    Lancashire Constabulary[3] 11 5274
    Leicestershire Constabulary 17 2546
    Lincolnshire Police 2 1645
    Merseyside Police 22 8919
    Metropolitan Police 111 75733
    Norfolk Constabulary 4 2062
    Northamptonshire Police 1 1734
    Northumbria Police 1 6480
    North Yorkshire Police 3 2167
    Nottinghamshire Police 15 3042
    South Yorkshire Police ICO 4297
    Staffordshire Police[4] ICO 3058
    Suffolk Constabulary 2 1715
    Surrey Police 3 3844 104

    Sussex Police 3 5106
    Thames Valley Police ICO 7805
    Warwickshire Police 0 1093
    West Mercia Police[4] 14 2697
    West Midlands Police 58 12344
    West Yorkshire Police

    11645
    Wiltshire Police 5 1847
    Dyfed-Powys Police (Heddlu Dyfed
    Powys) 5 1213
    Gwent Police (Heddlu Gwent) 13 1654
    North Wales Police (Heddlu Gogledd
    Cymru) 6 1900
    South Wales Police (Heddlu De Cymru) 13 4743
    Total 517 235946

Source: Mr. Les Reid, Freedom of Information requests July 2012

Figures as of Sunday 9th September 2012
‘ICO’ denotes the Constabulary has been reported to the Information Commissioner


Wrong!! That wasn't the question, specific groups - rape and religion- not Taxi/PH?

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 2:50 am 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCQ9ZWfCuQ



Up for debate???

Oh and do everyone a favour Ums, don't comment. I think you are obviously too stupid to make a serious contribution. :-|

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:34 am 
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numb skull or is it thick skull? Aren't you the original multi plate owning, cartel operating now islamophobic taxi baron?

Yup I think you are, go and comment on that.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 1:06 pm 
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Wrong!! That wasn't the question, specific groups - rape and religion- not Taxi/PH?


I don't think they religiously profile rape tbh - and you aint silly enough to think they do.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:22 pm 
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Wrong!! That wasn't the question, specific groups - rape and religion- not Taxi/PH?


Well it's a taxi and ph forum so perhaps you're best to find a rape & religion forum and ask the question there :wink: That said I think you haven't really looked at the figures and what they suggest :-|

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:29 pm 
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find a rape & religion forum and ask the question there



http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/re ... out-6.html

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Wrong!! That wasn't the question, specific groups - rape and religion- not Taxi/PH?


I don't think they religiously profile rape tbh - and you aint silly enough to think they do.



I never said they religiously profile rape. What I said was they hold the data on rapes/sexual assaults committed by certain religious groupings, but they won't give out the information under FOI. Watch the RT video, I think it's quite a balance piece that asks all the right questions and also gives an opinion on how the government is aware of what's been happening but have failed to act.

I think the chief reporter from the times was spot on. :-|

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm 
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Wrong!! That wasn't the question, specific groups - rape and religion- not Taxi/PH?


I don't think they religiously profile rape tbh - and you aint silly enough to think they do.



I never said they religiously profile rape. What I said was they hold the data on rapes/sexual assaults committed by certain religious groupings, but they won't give out the information under FOI. Watch the RT video, I think it's quite a balance piece that asks all the right questions and also gives an opinion on how the government is aware of what's been happening but have failed to act.

I think the chief reporter from the times was spot on. :-|



It doesn't take too many brains to draw conclusions from the list toots posted -

Merseyside has around 9000 licensed vehicles across the differing districts - there were 22 sexual assaults

Greater Manchester has around 12,000 licensed vehicles across all the districts there were 109 sexual assaults

The major majority of drivers in the Manchester Area are of Asian origin - this isn't the case across Merseyside although a person from that area is better confirming it.

Of course, you could also state in areas where the major majority of drivers are of a certain ethnic group its obvious that group will be in the majority for any offence.

Here in Carlisle we have very few ethnic drivers - it is therefore hardly surprising the offences committed are in almost all cases those who are in the majority - anglo saxon males.

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