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 Post subject: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:58 pm 
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the company i am a shareholder driver for dropped our prices 15 months or so ago and its been a huge hit with the punters.because of the extra workload and drivers trying to not do school work they have implemented a rota system.bascically every other week you have to be working 8.30 am to 9.30 am and between 2.30 pm and 4.30 pm if not a £10 fine will be issued.
if a 1 driver vehicle works to midnite its exempt from next day.
now im not happy about this as im self employed and work the hours that suit me its one of the few benefits to this job.
my normal work day is usually 2pm till im done .

i know they arnt by law able to enforce a fine but financially im not sure i can fight them.


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:07 pm 
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All that extra money your earning and you cant afford a tenner !


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:17 pm 
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Your a shareholder, demand an EGM to discuss it and why it was implemented without consultation

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:29 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Your a shareholder, demand an EGM to discuss it and why it was implemented without consultation


Maybe they're pretend shareholders with no voting rights :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:25 pm 
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I suppose that this is due to a certain other company no longer doing unaccompanied school runs.


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:47 pm 
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Wasn't there something about enforced shifts making you an employee, even if you're self employed ?

What would happen if you were logged on between those times but just refused all jobs sent to you (unless you want school jobs) ?

Unless all drivers stick together and refuse to work enforced shifts and pay any fines there's not much you can do without risking being kicked off the fleet, a shareholders meeting is the way to go and if the bosses won't do what the majority want get rid of them and get some in who will.

You would possibly win a court case as threatening someone with an undesirable consequence unless they pay a sum of money (or other threat) could be deemed blackmail/extortion.


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
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I cant understand why a driver wouldnt want a school run, explain please?

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:20 pm 
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The only organisations that can fine you are the courts and local authorities. See the Pepipoo parking pages for further information.
If my "employer" threatened to "fine" me I'd tell him what to do with it; it's an illegal stoppage from wages. If you are "self employed" and he stopped me £10, I'd issue a county court summons for the £10 and then see who's right!


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I cant understand why a driver wouldnt want a school run, explain please?

Because they have discounted there fares so much theres a very good chance that school job will be between 2 pound/2.50.Then for that you need to wait for the kid and take him/her into school.


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:50 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
All that extra money your earning and you cant afford a tenner !





ooooooo you bitch,mind ive just booked a family holiday to orlando next may something i couldnt even of thought about before the price drop.

Cerberus wrote:
I suppose that this is due to a certain other company no longer doing unaccompanied school runs.


no it got mentioned before and we often get system busy at that time


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:52 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
I cant understand why a driver wouldnt want a school run, explain please?




its not a regular job but one offs and they are a pain,i dont mind them really as its all part of the game.you cant have belting jobs all the time.


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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:29 pm 
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Its bogus self employment .........rendering the company acting illegally and giving YOU employment RIGHTS.............any fine is an unlawful deduction from earnings........... add just these 2 issues up ...........................the company is now "not fit and proper" ..................you want more assistance advice representation...............join a UNION ..........................or get mugged off.......................i know what my moneys on :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:50 pm 
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tangarinearmy wrote:
i know they arnt by law able to enforce a fine but financially im not sure i can fight them.

It's a penalty.

If the rules of the company say that's the rules then you are free to leave.

I'm not saying I agree with the rules, but someone must have voted the committee on.

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:53 pm 
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tangarinearmy wrote:
ooooooo you bitch,mind ive just booked a family holiday to orlando next may something i couldnt even of thought about before the price drop.

If you think I'm a taxi/PH anorak, well that's nothing compared to my anorakness for Orlando.

PM me with whatever questions/advice you want, and I will give you chapter and verse on anything Orlando. 8-[

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 Post subject: Re: rota and fines
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:56 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
tangarinearmy wrote:
i know they arnt by law able to enforce a fine but financially im not sure i can fight them.

It's a penalty.

If the rules of the company say that's the rules then you are free to leave.

I'm not saying I agree with the rules, but someone must have voted the committee on.


Wrong on every point Sussex no company rules can overide LEGISLATION..............................you should know better #-o #-o

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