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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:42 pm 
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Whichever side you shack up with......there will be a religious undertoe. Wars from years gone by nearly always had religion pushing it along- you of all people with the beliefs that you feel,must know that it is true.

I am thinking with the mindset of knowing how much "we" as a nation get lied too, and how much spin is chucked our way........do we really know the truth?



So when ISIS say they are fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State governed by religious control under Sharia law, we should take this with a pinch of salt? #-o #-o #-o #-o



I am afraid that you and others are tarring them all with the same brush i.e are all taxi drivers rapists, are all entertainers paed ophiles, are all coppers bent, the bottom line being is that there is good and bad everywhere.

People go to war for all sorts of different reasons (unlike our government who shoot you if you do not/well they used to). Yes here will be some religious nuts (that will be their reason), others will do it because of foreign occupation (that will be their reason), others will do it because of suppression, and so on. There will be no common denominator as such...........they are extremely p!$$ed off by "Western" interference and to a point I can see their grievance.

Putting aside your total lack of proof i.e a couple of videos that could have been made by a kids bigging it up, and then the usual bollocks spouted by our corrupt press who "spin" for the government, what do you actually have as proof that these people are wrong in their beliefs? and then they are going to come back to this country and create mayhem?

I said many years ago that the government had through their immigration program, let in the equivalent of a foreign army, as such there are technically tens of thousands already here that could bring this country to a halt. They already have the knowledge, as such on a regular scale it is not happening as most want peace.

The only reason the Gov is kicking off about this is that they will have access to better weaponry, they will also gain better knowledge and capability to hurt the establishment i.e THEM.

Annnnd, before you start your usual tactics of replying by answering nothing....and asking more questions.....try answering some annnnd providing proof of what you are saying.

You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:21 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
strip them of their British citizenship
Er,,. born here = British NATIONAL, different to British Citizen.


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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:28 pm 
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cabby john wrote:
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Whichever side you shack up with......there will be a religious undertoe. Wars from years gone by nearly always had religion pushing it along- you of all people with the beliefs that you feel,must know that it is true.

I am thinking with the mindset of knowing how much "we" as a nation get lied too, and how much spin is chucked our way........do we really know the truth?



So when ISIS say they are fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State governed by religious control under Sharia law, we should take this with a pinch of salt? #-o #-o #-o #-o



I am afraid that you and others are tarring them all with the same brush i.e are all taxi drivers rapists, are all entertainers paed ophiles, are all coppers bent, the bottom line being is that there is good and bad everywhere.

People go to war for all sorts of different reasons (unlike our government who shoot you if you do not/well they used to). Yes here will be some religious nuts (that will be their reason), others will do it because of foreign occupation (that will be their reason), others will do it because of suppression, and so on. There will be no common denominator as such...........they are extremely p!$$ed off by "Western" interference and to a point I can see their grievance.

Putting aside your total lack of proof i.e a couple of videos that could have been made by a kids bigging it up, and then the usual bollocks spouted by our corrupt press who "spin" for the government, what do you actually have as proof that these people are wrong in their beliefs? and then they are going to come back to this country and create mayhem?

I said many years ago that the government had through their immigration program, let in the equivalent of a foreign army, as such there are technically tens of thousands already here that could bring this country to a halt. They already have the knowledge, as such on a regular scale it is not happening as most want peace.

The only reason the Gov is kicking off about this is that they will have access to better weaponry, they will also gain better knowledge and capability to hurt the establishment i.e THEM.

Annnnd, before you start your usual tactics of replying by answering nothing....and asking more questions.....try answering some annnnd providing proof of what you are saying.

You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.



Don't talk absolute shi*e!! #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

The leaders of this Islamic Jihad make there own videos and have made there intentions crystal clear. Oh and please spare me this "voice of reason" crap... #-o You obviously have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to evidence of Islamic extremism and fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State.

Oh and there is no misrepresentation as far as putting a video on youtube and spelling out your intentions for the whole world to see. #-o #-o #-o These people are religious nutters who want to live in an Islamic State ruled by a religious leader under the Yoke Of Sharia Law. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

What don't you get, you fu*king moron?



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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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The only reason the Gov is kicking off about this is that they will have access to better weaponry, they will also gain better knowledge and capability to hurt the establishment i.e THEM


How many of the 'establishment' were murdered in the London Bus bombings?

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You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.


Are you saying these people aren't posting their videos on youtube?

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captain cab wrote:
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You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.


Are you saying these people aren't posting their videos on youtube?



"Spin and propaganda" wtf is he talking about they are spelling out their intentions for the whole world to see, but Cabby John thinks this is a government plot to discredit these lunatics.#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92AahO0twQ

#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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Which leads to the question: if someone is born in Britain and has a British passport, how can you ban them from re-entering their country of birth? :?



Should they hell as like.


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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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at what point do people say enough? is it the point where you're beheaded? is it the point where your forced to change or adopt a religion or suffer death?

whether people like the west or not has little to do with it, in this country we air or problems not with guns but through the ballot box - if you don't like the system change it - if you don't like what the majority want - leave.

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captain cab wrote:
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The only reason the Gov is kicking off about this is that they will have access to better weaponry, they will also gain better knowledge and capability to hurt the establishment i.e THEM


How many of the 'establishment' were murdered in the London Bus bombings?


They obviously were not and that is my point, with better knowledge and weaponry they could get to that point.

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captain cab wrote:
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You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.


Are you saying these people aren't posting their videos on youtube?


No I am not. Of course videos are being posted, but not on the same line as say the Nuremberg rallies whereby thousands turned up. In most cases you might see a few dozen on the vids in question.

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They obviously were not and that is my point, with better knowledge and weaponry they could get to that point.


like allowing these people back into the UK after they've been trained properly?

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Skull wrote:
captain cab wrote:
cabby john wrote:

You seem to have fallen into the trap of believing all of the spin and propaganda that you are reading and viewing.


Are you saying these people aren't posting their videos on youtube?



"Spin and propaganda" wtf is he talking about they are spelling out their intentions for the whole world to see, but Cabby John thinks this is a government plot to discredit these lunatics.#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92AahO0twQ

#-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


You really do need to take your head out of your ar$e. I will pose another wasted question.........DO YOU BELIEVE ALL THAT YOU READ.......you really do talk b*ll*cks.

It is the government who caused this problem.......they have every right to be worried. So long as it is you and I it does not matter.

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No I am not. Of course videos are being posted, but not on the same line as say the Nuremberg rallies whereby thousands turned up. In most cases you might see a few dozen on the vids in question.


Do you need a reminder of how Hitler started?

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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cabby john wrote:
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The only reason the Gov is kicking off about this is that they will have access to better weaponry, they will also gain better knowledge and capability to hurt the establishment i.e THEM


How many of the 'establishment' were murdered in the London Bus bombings?


They obviously were not and that is my point, with better knowledge and weaponry they could get to that point.


Cabby John, you talk absolute shi*e!!

The evidence you need is on their videos and is produced by none other than the very people taking part in their own Jihad. Oh and I am not making this up. It's their videos reported upon by the International Press.

The evidence doesn't get any more factual than that, you cretin. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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captain cab wrote:
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They obviously were not and that is my point, with better knowledge and weaponry they could get to that point.


like allowing these people back into the UK after they've been trained properly?


I am not sure as to how that will pan out! some will come back intent on doing damage, others will come back with mission completed or disillusioned to claim they were fighting an injustice. As I mentioned earlier there is case history re British citizens taking part in the Spanish civil war........so how do you take a passport off of a British Muslim? If I became a Muslim tomorrow......how do you refuse me entry back into my own country? It is no different for them as they are British.

The government have created the new 1000 year war, the genie is out of the bottle.......and they do not have the answers.

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