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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:59 pm 
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Oh but Cabby John doesn't believe any of it. He's just too clever and not taken in by the western media, like you or I CC? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


I now understand the link between Muslims and Pork....they obviously realise that you cannot argue with pork, as I have just found out #-o. You are absolutely pitiful, the moment your argument runs out of steam (usually very quickly) you result to name calling and insults.....you really do need to grow up.


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So your claim is that these videos are a global conspiracy to discredit ISIS and their leader Abu Bakr AL-BAGHDADI?

It's all just made up, and none of it is true. Abu Bakr AL-BAGHDADI has not been sworn in as their new Caliph, and they haven't been fighting to create an Islamic State by killing thousands of people in the name of Allah. Oh and these videos are a fraud. They don't really mean what they say about calling Muslims to fight in their armed Jihad in the creation of an Islamic State.

https://www.youtube.com/feed/history


The above is your position on this subject, is it not? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are pathetic. You read only what you want to read - never answer questions - keep on asking of others, and believe all that you read.

Answer the questions..........ARE THEY ALL THE SAME? DO THEY ALL SHARE THE SAME IDEOLOGY? DO YOU THINK THAT SOME MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT AGENDA THAN OTHERS? - BIG LETTERS JUST FOR YOU!

P.S. Sorry for asking for multiple answers, I forgot that you only have a one word mentality for answering ALL questions :sad:

PPS. Just like the Muslim situation......one does not fit all #-o

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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ARE THEY ALL THE SAME?
I never said they were all the same other than those appearing in the videos calling for an Islamic State and declaring Jihad/Holly war.


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DO THEY ALL SHARE THE SAME IDEOLOGY?


The leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr AL-Baghdadi and those looking forward to joining his Jihad all share the same ideology, but they may differ on what actions they have to take to be a good Muslim.

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DO YOU THINK THAT SOME MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT AGENDA THAN OTHERS? - BIG LETTERS JUST FOR YOU!


Not in fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State, their agenda comes across loud and clear in their videos. There is no ambiguity. #-o

Oh and as for the international press, they don't need to propagandise religious fanatics who broadcast they are hell-bent on killing people, in their thousands, to achieve their objective. #-o

Unlike you Cabby John, I don't struggle with logic and reason when people appear on video armed to the teeth telling me why they intend to kill people. It's actually pretty straightforward thinking. #-o

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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Oh and as for the international press, they don't need to propagandise religious fanatics who broadcast they are hell-bent on killing people


That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion. You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.

I said it earlier on........there will be many reasons as to why they are doing it - it will not all be about religion. In many cases it will be a personal reason/choice. To ban those who have gone back to a country of origin/link to fight tyranny/suppression would be wrong, as for the others then it has to be dealt with.

To tar all with the same brush will not be just, not only will it not be just.......I do not think that the legal system/human rights laws will allow it. As I said the genie is out of the bottle.

P.S. Do not ask me what the answer is - not a clue, as for solutions/possible solutions then you would have to rip up "The Human rights Act".

PPS Do not ask me about our rights, that was binned a long time ago.

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John perhaps you should consider that all religion are c*nts, but some are bigger c*nts than others :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: WOT YER REKON
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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion. You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion.


That's becasue when someone says they are fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State for the Muslim faithful, it is all about religion, why, because it's a religious system of government led by a single caliph under Sharia Law. ](*,)

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You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


It has nothing to do with "FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION" ( I think you mean Oppression) or driving foreign forces from your country of origin. ](*,)

They are creating a new Islamic State, and they are inviting Muslims from all over the world to fight to become a part of it. It's not a Democracy they want to live in but a Theocracy, ruled by God and his right-hand man, the Caliph. \:D/


Are wee starting to get the picture Cabby John?

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Oh and Cabby John, given half the chance these religious fanatics would do the same here in the UK, and that's why they should not get back into the country. :shock:

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Oh and Cabby John, given half the chance these religious fanatics would do the same here in the UK, and that's why they should not get back into the country. :shock:


sadly I imagine those wanting to let them back have the lyrics of yazoo's 80's classic in mind :lol:

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a bit of a interlude;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwCWvn60L3w&feature=kp

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Oh and Cabby John, given half the chance these religious fanatics would do the same here in the UK, and that's why they should not get back into the country. :shock:


I rest my case........At last we agree that you are blinkered - you can see nothing and I mean nothing except religious zealots, and of course you do "Tar everyone with the same brush".

I cannot believe how stupid you are.

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Oh and Cabby John, given half the chance these religious fanatics would do the same here in the UK, and that's why they should not get back into the country. :shock:


I rest my case........At last we agree that you are blinkered - you can see nothing and I mean nothing except religious zealots, and of course you do "Tar everyone with the same brush".

I cannot believe how stupid you are.


that makes two stupid people - because religious bigotry aside - these folk scare the crap out of me

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Skull wrote:
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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion. You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion.


That's becasue when someone says they are fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State for the Muslim faithful, it is all about religion, why, because it's a religious system of government led by a single caliph under Sharia Law. ](*,)

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You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


It has nothing to do with "FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION" ( I think you mean Oppression) or driving foreign forces from your country of origin. ](*,)

They are creating a new Islamic State, and they are inviting Muslims from all over the world to fight to become a part of it. It's not a Democracy they want to live in but a Theocracy, ruled by God and his right-hand man, the Caliph. \:D/


Are wee starting to get the picture Cabby John?


John, I want you to read the above and explain to me what you don't understand or where I have got it wrong? :?

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that makes two stupid people - because religious bigotry aside - these folk scare the crap out of me


I cannot see the merit in that comment.

In my (look through the posts) I am prepared to recognise that there are problems, unlike Skull who puts everything down to religion.

My take is this - others will have gone over there for reasons of ideology, not necessarily connected to religious rantings/belief (similar to our people fighting in the Spanish civil war). The bottom line being is that you are not going to be able say they have "ALL" gone for the same reason...as such that moves the goal posts.

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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion. You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


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That is where you fall down EVERY time! To you it is all about religion.


That's becasue when someone says they are fighting to create a Caliphate/Islamic State for the Muslim faithful, it is all about religion, why, because it's a religious system of government led by a single caliph under Sharia Law. ](*,)

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You have never once acknowledged that it might be about FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION/and just like we would do..........drive foreign forces from your country of origin/link.


It has nothing to do with "FREEDOM/getting rid of SUPPRESSION" ( I think you mean Oppression) or driving foreign forces from your country of origin. ](*,)

They are creating a new Islamic State, and they are inviting Muslims from all over the world to fight to become a part of it. It's not a Democracy they want to live in but a Theocracy, ruled by God and his right-hand man, the Caliph. \:D/


Are wee starting to get the picture Cabby John?


John, I want you to read the above and explain to me what you don't understand or where I have got it wrong? :?




Quite a simple answer to your question! Someone puts out a vid or says something to do with religion.......and that wraps it up for you - because in your book......one/two means all, I guess maths were never your strong point....along with English :D

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that makes two stupid people - because religious bigotry aside - these folk scare the crap out of me


I cannot see the merit in that comment.



Which means you can see the merit in someone committing murder, in the most brutal terms in belief they'll one day die and have virgins on tap?

ffs come on man wake up

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John, what don't you understand about wanting to live and a theocracy ruled by a religious leader?

A Caliphate is an Islamic State ruled by the Caliph, or supreme religious leader, under Sharia Law. This is "God" or "Allah's" right-hand man.

And it's not one or two videos. These fanatics make their religious beliefs abundantly clear and at every opportunity. There is no misrepresentation of their beliefs because leaders and followers alike are telling you exactly what they believe and what they hope to achieve. #-o


You, Cabby John, simply don't know what you are talking about or won't accept what doesn't fit with your opinion. In short, you are thick. #-o #-o #-o #-o

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