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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:02 am 
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I have not got the full online version yet - Council to return £1.1m to the Cities taxi drivers who have been overcharged on license fees, since May 2009. It is estimated to be somewhere in the region of £390 and £600 per driver.

As others have been saying for a long time. Councils must set the fees for these licenses "On the basis that it only recovers costs which it is entitled statutorily to recover" they have obviously overstepped the line.

They are also facing two judicial reviews both to be heard on June 19th - I would assume that is to do with the charge that they lamped us with regarding charging us for Taxi Marshalls.

Do you have any link to the full details John, I would be very grateful for any information that is available.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:38 pm 
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I have not got the full online version yet - Council to return £1.1m to the Cities taxi drivers who have been overcharged on license fees, since May 2009. It is estimated to be somewhere in the region of £390 and £600 per driver.

As others have been saying for a long time. Councils must set the fees for these licenses "On the basis that it only recovers costs which it is entitled statutorily to recover" they have obviously overstepped the line.

They are also facing two judicial reviews both to be heard on June 19th - I would assume that is to do with the charge that they lamped us with regarding charging us for Taxi Marshalls.


Do you have any link to the full details John, I would be very grateful for any information that is available.


It is all very sketchy at the moment, totally lacking in transparency of which leaves me thinking - If they have voluntarily owned up to £1.1 mil, you can bet your bottom dollar that with proper scrutiny there is more in the pot. It was only a bit of thinking by myself that set the "Interest" issue off (a sum of money that they did not come clean about), the guy who had started it all off, has got more serious stuff on his plate re legal costs, so easily not on his agenda.

I will be pursuing further questions as the money is not automatically being returned to the drivers! The drivers have been sent a claim form to sign and return (with the added - this covers all claims!!) however if for example a driver has passed on/moved out of the area/country/retired, so on and so on, then the money plus interest is going to stay with the council - in my book that is not right.

If I get anything then you are more than welcome to it - is there anything specific?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:48 pm 
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If I get anything then you are more than welcome to it - is there anything specific?

basically, I am interested to know whicH fees have been overcharged. What they were before and after and how it was discovered that the overcharging had occurred?

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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:

If I get anything then you are more than welcome to it - is there anything specific?

basically, I am interested to know whicH fees have been overcharged. What they were before and after and how it was discovered that the overcharging had occurred?


I do not have that info on hand without going through my accounts, that I will try and do by next week. As to how it was found out! I think it was by making constant requests via "Freedom of Information".....of which I gather was not very forthcoming.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:50 pm 
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Cabby John 1 wrote:
I think it was by making constant requests via "Freedom of Information".....of which I gather was not very forthcoming.

Been there, done that, wore the f**king T shirt out. :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:47 pm 
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Well done Mr CJ1. =D>

The reason the council stumped up the interest was it would have cost them much more to defend it, money which they couldn't recover if they won.

A lesson to us all.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:21 am 
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grandad wrote:
Cabby John 1 wrote:

If I get anything then you are more than welcome to it - is there anything specific?

basically, I am interested to know whicH fees have been overcharged. What they were before and after and how it was discovered that the overcharging had occurred?


The Hackney Badge renewal was basically the same for 4 years i.e 2010/11/12/13 - the charge was £59;

The refund for the 4 was 2009/10...£23
2010/11...£22
2011/12...£22
2012/13...£10

The HC/PH Renewal was £230 for years 2009 - 2012 & then £303 for year 2013/14 (A taxi Marshall payment!!)

The refund......................2009/10...£95
2010/11..£115
2011/12...£98
2012/13...£81. As to why there are large fluctuations on the HC/PH renewal I do not know. I believe this is why the Hack Association have requested transparency as to how it was worked out.

The taxi Marshall issue I believe is still on going.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 7:01 pm 
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Thanks for the info John.

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It would seem that the Sol acting for the Council did in fact put forward a defence of a fashion. They paid out the interest @5% compounded over the 4 years - without querying the figures whatsoever! This I find very strange as no one ever pays out monies without asking as to how it was worked out......leaving me thinking as to what they are actually covering up/hiding. The letter/defence................


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"The claimant does not specify any contract,enactment, or other basis upon which he has a legal cause of action.

No admissions are made as to the rate of interest claimed by the claimant.

Nevertheless the Defendant has decided to pay the claim in full in the sum of £63.87 + court fee of £25.00
totalling £88.87.

A cheque to cover this sum plus the £466.00 original debt was sent to the claimant by first class post on
9th July 2014".


It would seem that they have no intention to pay other drivers!! Comments/thoughts welcome.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:41 pm 
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Have a nice holiday when they cheque hits the floor.


refunds will require proof of payment (councils own receipts), what about any that have left the trade and now dont have access to all 7 years back payment records? (albeit HMRC require you hold 6 years worth). Anyone that has died will be leaving the refund with the council i suppose

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It would seem that they have no intention to pay other drivers!! Comments/thoughts welcome.

You can't do anything about that, if they don't want to fight for their full entitlement more fool them.

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It would seem that they have no intention to pay other drivers!! Comments/thoughts welcome.

You can't do anything about that, if they don't want to fight for their full entitlement more fool them.


They (the L.A) should be above what is basically.......dishonesty. There will always those who are not able to defend their corner - to my way of thinking it should not stop them getting what is rightfully theirs.

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