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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:58 am 
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No it's not, but in that case the new association needs to educate the drivers.



The above comment set me thinking!

Would it not be arguable to the LA; that in order to apply a punishment to a driver, then surely they would have to provide proof that they had provided the necessary training to show/demonstrate what the drivers have to abide to.

I worked in the Car Industry many years ago making parts for the cars, it was basically mass production engineering. From time to time someone would screw up by not keeping an eye on tolerances, this in effect could mean whole batches of parts being scrapped. In the event of this happening it was rarely a case of dismissal, but more like a suspension 2/3 days etc. My point being is that the company always had to show that the person concerned had been properly trained on making that component before they could suspend an employee.

I was pulled in by our LA about 8/9 years ago accused of cherry picking, it was not true, and completely by accident was able to prove that I wasn't ( I had the sheet of that night with a record of work that was done around the time they claimed showing that I was taking local work, I did not know what I was being called in for, so there was no way for me to doctor/falsify the record).

From the meeting that took place letters followed, I stated that I felt that I was entitled to refuse people who were drunk, people who wanted to bring takeaway food into my cab, then also successfully arguing that wrapped up takeaway food could be quite offensive and this too could be refused. None of the points that I have mentioned were actually laid out, but when pointed out they agreed that they were valid and acceptable. Further points I am trying to make is that these disciplinary measures are more often than not - not that well thought out. As we know a lot of them are up their own backsides and believe that they only have to say that the rules say this that and the other, then expecting us to roll over! I have won many an argument by using "Their" documentation and "Their" rules to rip them apart, as I said they are not that well thought out because they have very little knowledge or understanding of the trade, but they do like their rules and the "Power Trip" that goes with it.

Sussex eludes the word "Educate", personally I would swap it for "Training" (from the LA). I believe that without "Proper" instruction/training from them demonstrating what you can do/what you cannot do.......then their disciplinary measures would get ripped apart.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:38 pm 
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Sussex eludes the word "Educate", personally I would swap it for "Training" (from the LA). I believe that without "Proper" instruction/training from them demonstrating what you can do/what you cannot do.......then their disciplinary measures would get ripped apart.

That is an interesting point John, and one that I brought up with one of our enforcement officers recently. The situation was about a driver not securing wheelchairs in his cab. I pointed out that the council are issuing licenses to drivers of such vehicles without checking that they know how to secure a wheelchair correctly and that the council should ensure that drivers were adequately trained to do it. I have not as yet received an answer.

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new association to deal with the problem .................................reactionaries instead of proactive...........typical brain dead cab drivers #-o #-o #-o

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Cabby John 1 wrote:

Sussex eludes the word "Educate", personally I would swap it for "Training" (from the LA). I believe that without "Proper" instruction/training from them demonstrating what you can do/what you cannot do.......then their disciplinary measures would get ripped apart.



That is an interesting point John, and one that I brought up with one of our enforcement officers recently. The situation was about a driver not securing wheelchairs in his cab. I pointed out that the council are issuing licenses to drivers of such vehicles without checking that they know how to secure a wheelchair correctly and that the council should ensure that drivers were adequately trained to do it. I have not as yet received an answer.


There is a mandatory requirement for our drivers to go on a designated (by the L.A.) disablement course, cost about £20 back around 10 years ago. Tbh being on nights I do not do very much wheelchair work, as such the anchoring/correct way of securing them would be pretty much hit and miss as we have additional seat belt strapping to anchor wheelchairs in......not a simple task! I do remember that they must NOT be secured sideways & unfortunately for them in my vehicle they would be travelling backwards. Considering they are now specifically WAVs, you would have thought that the manufacturers would have installed extended inertia seat belts to accommodate a simpler/quicker way of making it safe for wheelchair users.

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"National legislation states that it is a criminal offence to refuse to carry a passenger unless they have an infectious disease, have an animal with them (except if it is a service or assistance animal) or if someone is deceased.


A caring and sharing council - just a bit at odds with HSE advice :roll:

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Dear Scunthorpe Council

Do we have to take these two scumbags when they get out of jail?

yours sincerely

The Scunthorpe taxi trade

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"National legislation states that it is a criminal offence to refuse to carry a passenger unless they have an infectious disease, have an animal with them (except if it is a service or assistance animal) or if someone is deceased.


A caring and sharing council - just a bit at odds with HSE advice :roll:



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