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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:34 pm 
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If you look at the wording of the report its quite obvious that the driver concerned will lose his license.

He sold his cab and plate shortly after the interview - it became apparent to him that he stood little chance in front of a kangaroo court who will, no doubt, sit and hear the parents explanation as opposed to the driver. The driver went to the council as requested but did not have any representation or legal advice.

Ironically the police say the driver committed no offence - which leaves the City Council - who obviously do.

The law from the snippet of the case I posted appears to be crystal clear - a drivers responsibility ends upon the passenger leaving the vehicle - it is not for a driver to assess the drunkenness of a passenger. Yet it seems the council will sit in judgement and consider themselves far beyond the power of a High Court judge.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:53 pm 
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The driver always has the magistrates court appeal route.


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Carlisle taxi man keeps licence after abandoning woman in rain


By Jonny Irving

Last updated at 12:16, Thursday, 09 October 2014


A young woman, abandoned by a taxi driver in a village, was later found to be semi-conscious and suffering from hypothermia.

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Cabbie John Mulholland, who told the 20-year-old to get out of his taxi “to sort herself out” because he thought she was going to be sick, avoided being stripped of his licence by Carlisle city councillors.

Mr Mulholland, 55, of Leatham Street, Carlisle, was driving the woman through Warwick Bridge, east of Carlisle, when the incident happened.

The woman, who had been drinking at a 21st birthday party in the city centre, got out of the car and walked a short distance from the taxi but did not return to the vehicle. Mr Mulholland waited just two or three minutes before pipping his horn at the woman and returning into the centre of Carlisle.

An hour after the incident, at around 10.50pm on August 16, the woman known as Miss Carruthers was discovered “semi-conscious and suffering from hypothermia”.

She was taken to hospital where paramedics contacted the police because they were “concerned that she had been left there in a vulnerable condition by the taxi driver”. However, police were satisfied that no criminal offence had been committed and referred the case to Carlisle City Council’s licensing department.

At the city council’s regulatory panel meeting, Miss Carruthers’ mum Jane Carruthers, spoke to councillors.

“He left her just over the bridge. It was absolutely throwing it down with rain, it was cold and wet and she was wearing the type of clothing most young people do when they go out.

“She was six miles from home and near a road and river. It was isolated and there was nothing round about. He told her to get out and sort herself out.

“He made no attempt to help her at all. Next thing she ended up in hospital with hypothermia.”

Mrs Carruthers added that she would have happily paid the bill had her daughter been sick in Mr Mulholland’s taxi but said that she felt he had put his potential loss of earnings over her daughter’s safety.

“But if you compare that with loss of life. The consequences of leaving her in Warwick Bridge with hypothermia could have been fatal,” she added.

When asked by the panel if he would have done anything different in hindsight, Mr Mulholland initially said no, but later admitted he would “probably phone the police”, before adding; “I am very sorry it has happened.”

When asked why he let the woman out of his taxi, he said: “She was gagging, actually asleep. So I stopped in a lay-by and let her out. I have had numerous runners over the years and I have never phoned the police.”

Chairman of the panel councillor John Bell, said: “After a long deliberation you will be issued with a strongly worded letter.

“Can I remind you that taxi drivers carry a duty of care, especially for vulnerable passengers?”

The panel also requested that Mr Mulholland receive more training, especially in the area of vulnerable people.

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Well, when your right 99 times out of 100 there's always going to be that one occasion

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What duty of care? He's a cabbie not a nurse.

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Bart wrote:
What duty of care? He's a cabbie not a nurse.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:44 pm 
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“Can I remind you that taxi drivers carry a duty of care, especially for vulnerable passengers?”


Once out the car they cease to be passengers



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[pas-uh n-jer]

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a person who is traveling in an automobile, bus, train, airplane, or other conveyance, especially one who is not the driver, pilot, or the like.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:17 pm 
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captain cab wrote:

“Can I remind you that taxi drivers carry a duty of care, especially for vulnerable passengers?”

The panel also requested that Mr Mulholland receive more training, especially in the area of vulnerable people.

He certainly does need some retraining. Here it is, if they look in the slightest bit drunk, don't pick them up.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:20 pm 
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It was absolutely throwing it down with rain, it was cold and wet and she was wearing the type of clothing most young people do when they go out.


As far as i am concerned, that is down to poor parenting. Who in their right mind would let their daughter out in weather like that without a vest?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:57 pm 
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Absolutely farcical, don't blame the guy for one second for chucking her out.


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I think it would have been better dropping her off somewhere a bit more busy, like a hospital or police station, or even take her back from whence she came.

But the best way to get rid of iffy punters, save from the above, is as quickly as possible.

Or don't pick them up.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:55 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
I think it would have been better dropping her off somewhere a bit more busy, like a hospital or police station, or even take her back from whence she came.

But the best way to get rid of iffy punters, save from the above, is as quickly as possible.

Or don't pick them up.



You need to lock the ISIS thread but this thread is saying something new and thought provoking. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


Deary me Sussex.... #-o

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You need to lock the ISIS thread but this thread is saying something new and thought provoking. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


Deary me Sussex.... #-o



ffs give it a rest - however, I was waiting for you and jasbar to bring in the lee rigby thing

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:15 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Skull wrote:


You need to lock the ISIS thread but this thread is saying something new and thought provoking. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


Deary me Sussex.... #-o



ffs give it a rest - however, I was waiting for you and jasbar to bring in the lee rigby thing


Your losing it me auld chum, if you think your comments or comparisons add anything new or relevant to the ISIS situation. #-o

This thread is definitely more in your line CC, real interesting stuff, right at your level. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

Oh and no chance of anyone hurting themselves by thinking too hard. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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