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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:30 pm 
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Cgull wrote:
how can it be right to license them as ph but not as taxis?
if people are going to fall out of them. then it doesn't matter the nature of the hire.
or have I missed something? :?



There is no justification for not licensing the E7 as a hackney carriage on safety grounds, if it is already being licensed as a P/H vehicle.

I'm concerned as to the level of the pro LTI stand put forward by local taxi associations. These taxi associations who supposedly represent the trade, should be impartial and base their opinion on choice rather than endorse one particular vehicle against another. I have yet to read an association report that advocates excluding LTI vehicles but I have read several reports advocating the exclusion of all other types of vehicles except LTI and metro cabs.

I think that tells a story on its own but we must ask why do these Taxi associations such as Liverpool, Manchester etc, etc, go into bat for LTI?

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JD wrote:
I think that tells a story on its own but we must ask why do these Taxi associations such as Liverpool, Manchester etc, etc, go into bat for LTI?

LTI play a clever game. :shock:

Most of the trade press is paid for by LTI's advertising, the only one that's pro choice is LTDA's Taxi, and funny enough LTI don't advertise in it. [-(

As for most of the cab unions/associations, well it just goes to show how easy they are to con.

Just a sandwich and cuppa in Coventry, and they are anyone's. :-$

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The site has received this press release from (it would appear) good friends of LTI. :shock:

All I can say about it is :^o :^o :^o .

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LIVERPOOL CITY COUNCIL REJECTS CONVERSION TAXI

*Safety and wheelchair access issues*

Liverpool has become the latest authority to officially refuse to accept the Allied Vehicles E7 conversion type taxis to be used on their streets.

The Liverpool City Council, in support of representations from the local Taxi Trade, have decided that the Peugeot E7 conversion type taxi based on the Peugeot Expert Combi were unsuitable for use and they will continue to only licence the familiar London style taxis which are fully wheelchair accessible and purpose built as taxis to meet the current Public Carriage Office regulations.

Currently Liverpool has 1,400 licensed Hackney Carriages made up of Fairway, Metrocab, TXI and TXII models.

Allied Vehicles Limited from Glasgow, who converts the Peugeot E7 Combi vehicles into wheelchair accessible taxis, recently applied to have their taxi approved for use as a licensed taxicab within the City of Liverpool.

Members of the local Taxi trade stated they were not in support of this application on the grounds of, that an E7 has already been licensed in Liverpool as a private hire vehicle so it would be difficult for customers to differentiate between recognised Hackney Carriages and private hire vehicles. They also had concerns regarding passenger safety exiting the vehicle because of its sliding doors, the rear van type doors are not included in the central door locking system, the lack of driver visibility out of the rear windows, the E7 has a larger turning circle than the London Taxis and the E7 has a higher step height making ramp angles steeper for wheelchair passengers.

The Liverpool Council Licensing Committee supported the Taxi Trade and said that the E7 does not meet the Public Carriage Office specifications for taxis, which the City Council abides by, and the Committee has concerns over the safety issues regarding sliding doors and the use of wheelchair access ramps.

Currently the Public Carriage Office is reviewing the Condition of Fitness regulations, which apply to London style taxis following an appeal by Allied Vehicles for their E7 taxi to be allowed to be used in London. The appeal follows the Public Carriage Office’s initial decision made nearly two years ago that conversion type taxis were not suitable vehicles for use as London Taxis.

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15 August 2005

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Wait a minute, another one has just arrived. :shock:

Apparently Elvis has just been found on the moon. :D

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Its a good job we know, the members of the liverpool Taxi trade are fine upstanding people , or you would think , the embarrassing way they suport the T X metro and fairway, they were getting a bung . Why dont LTI . make a slightly bigger Taxi one that you can realy get 5 people in and there cases and go for a few miles in comfort . Liverpool council want to rethink the age limit on Taxis . H J K L M N P R City of culture more like city of scrap . I went to Madiera for a weeks Holiday, every taxi was a newish merk. and there suposed to be poor . It made Liverpool look like a third world City . No to E7 but clapped out sheds there fine . Streetcar.


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