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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 3:11 pm 
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A bus driver here told me that one of the modules that he did was on the correct way to load luggage on a coach. the module took 7 hours. He had already been doing continental tours for nearly 40 years. =D> =D>



Same as the CPC, a lorry driving mate of mine with 25 years experience driving HGV's and heavy and abnormal loads had to sit through 30 hours of bullshit given by someone who'd never sat in a HGV never mind driven one.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:25 pm 
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The 5 modules can be the SAME module each day.... work that one out

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:28 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
The 5 modules can be the SAME module each day.... work that one out

in order to get hers done by the deadline, my wife did all the modules in one week. This included doing the same module on 2 consecutive days. How pointless.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:23 pm 
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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
The 5 modules can be the SAME module each day.... work that one out

in order to get hers done by the deadline, my wife did all the modules in one week. This included doing the same module on 2 consecutive days. How pointless.


its Bullcrap just like all the DSA BTEQ and all the rest, we all know it

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:41 pm 
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I've done the bus driver DCPC and most of it was a waste of time. A chap who'd been doing continental tours for over 30 years turned out to be the worse driver on the course and still learnt very little.

I've done the taxi/ph NVQ, that too was a waste of time and someone's money.

However, there seems to be a large number of cabbies out there who could benefit immensely from basic training, how to spot a defective headlamp, basic taxi laws, how to drive properly...


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:22 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:
grandad wrote:
A bus driver here told me that one of the modules that he did was on the correct way to load luggage on a coach. the module took 7 hours. He had already been doing continental tours for nearly 40 years. =D> =D>



Same as the CPC, a lorry driving mate of mine with 25 years experience driving HGV's and heavy and abnormal loads had to sit through 30 hours of bullshit given by someone who'd never sat in a HGV never mind driven one.


Isnt it a condition that the trainer needs to be "industry competent" ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:25 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
I've done the bus driver DCPC and most of it was a waste of time. A chap who'd been doing continental tours for over 30 years turned out to be the worse driver on the course and still learnt very little.

I've done the taxi/ph NVQ, that too was a waste of time and someone's money.

However, there seems to be a large number of cabbies out there who could benefit immensely from basic training, how to spot a defective headlamp, basic taxi laws, how to drive properly...


Perhaps bring in a condition for all new drivers - DSA, BTEC, language test


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:34 pm 
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c4bby wrote:
roythebus wrote:
I've done the bus driver DCPC and most of it was a waste of time. A chap who'd been doing continental tours for over 30 years turned out to be the worse driver on the course and still learnt very little.

I've done the taxi/ph NVQ, that too was a waste of time and someone's money.

However, there seems to be a large number of cabbies out there who could benefit immensely from basic training, how to spot a defective headlamp, basic taxi laws, how to drive properly...


Perhaps bring in a condition for all new drivers - DSA, BTEC, language test


How about a basic IQ test to weed out guys like you? =D> =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:13 pm 
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Be honest, what has anyone gained from any of these (I mean the candidates not the instructors, they gained £££££'s)

the DCPC cant be failed.....what exactly is the point of that?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:28 pm 
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Skull wrote:
c4bby wrote:
roythebus wrote:
I've done the bus driver DCPC and most of it was a waste of time. A chap who'd been doing continental tours for over 30 years turned out to be the worse driver on the course and still learnt very little.

I've done the taxi/ph NVQ, that too was a waste of time and someone's money.

However, there seems to be a large number of cabbies out there who could benefit immensely from basic training, how to spot a defective headlamp, basic taxi laws, how to drive properly...


Perhaps bring in a condition for all new drivers - DSA, BTEC, language test


How about a basic IQ test to weed out guys like you? =D> =D> =D> =D>



And after we pass the IQ test we then have to "Pin on the donkeys tail" where we have a choice of sticking it anywhere on a mugshot of you :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:31 pm 
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Hence the reason why in your case b0110ck brain PTDQ stands for "Pin the Tail on the Donkey Qualification" :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:37 pm 
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toots wrote:
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You are on the course........?



Or it is the first of many......?


It's the first of many :lol: As you well know I've always liked the idea of courses for drivers but they should be accurate and relevant. This week it has brought home to me how important it is to make drivers aware of the actual conditions their licenses are issued under :wink:


Have to admit that was one of the reasons why i did it. Totally agree with you Toots it should be accurate and relevant


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:57 am 
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VRQ L2 BTEC Award in Transporting Passengers by Taxi and Private Hire



1. Dealing with difficult people

2. Customer service

3. Drivers protection

4. Equal opportunities and disability awareness

5. Health and safety (lifting and carrying, accident and incidents)

6. Taxi and private hire legislation and compliance training


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Okay C4bby, tell everyone how you learned to deal with "difficult people"? We'll take this one at a time... #-o This should be a larf..... :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:48 am 
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It seems the main qualification for the DCPC trainers is that they know how to tick boxes, and for the training providers that they know how to milk money from "the system". Whilst many bus operators seem to think drivers benefit from the DCPC training, very few drivers I've spoken to actually learnt anything from the training.

My own transport manager done the same module 5 times, driving a bus for 5 days.

As for the taxi/ph NVQ I done, it seems the trainer (who WAS actually a cabbie from Sheffield) leant a bit from me! the course was not designed with the rural small operator in mind. He wanted a sample "drive" with me. The school run was 30 minutes, that was deemed too long for him so we didn't bother!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:40 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
It seems the main qualification for the DCPC trainers is that they know how to tick boxes, and for the training providers that they know how to milk money from "the system". Whilst many bus operators seem to think drivers benefit from the DCPC training, very few drivers I've spoken to actually learnt anything from the training.

My own transport manager done the same module 5 times, driving a bus for 5 days.

As for the taxi/ph NVQ I done, it seems the trainer (who WAS actually a cabbie from Sheffield) leant a bit from me! the course was not designed with the rural small operator in mind. He wanted a sample "drive" with me. The school run was 30 minutes, that was deemed too long for him so we didn't bother!


It's a bloody nonsense made for idiots like C4bby! #-o There's one born every minute... #-o

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